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Reply #30 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:43pm
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I have an older RCBS & a newer PACT (both are made by PACT).  The readings on both would fluctuate until I installed a choke in the power cords.  Afterwards, no more problems.  No doubt it was the fluorescent lights or other high frequency electronics in my office/loading room.

A choke is a type of inductor that features a donut-shaped core with an coil wrapped around it. As the name implies, a choke cuts off or restricts high-frequency alternating current (AC).  Install the choke within a few inches of the scale since the power cord can pick up the hi-freq AC.

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Reply #31 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:45pm
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Reply #32 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:22pm
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This is my father's Henry Troemner Gold Scale. It doesn't seem to be affected by electronic gadgetry.
  
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Reply #33 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 6:33pm
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Those don't look like gold bullets to me Bob.  If you are going to use a gold scale...........

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Reply #34 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 7:38pm
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Jack,

All that glitters is not lead-tin alloy.
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Reply #35 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:50pm
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At over $2600 an ounce for gold this sport could be an expensive sport. Even those silver bullets needed for werewolf protection are getting expensive.
  

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Reply #36 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:52am
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texasmac wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:43pm:
I have an older RCBS & a newer PACT (both are made by PACT).  The readings on both would fluctuate until I installed a choke in the power cords.  Afterwards, no more problems.  No doubt it was the fluorescent lights or other high frequency electronics in my office/loading room.

A choke is a type of inductor that features a donut-shaped core with an coil wrapped around it. As the name implies, a choke cuts off or restricts high-frequency alternating current (AC).  Install the choke within a few inches of the scale since the power cord can pick up the hi-freq AC.

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Hi Wayne,

Do you have a picture of the choke you installed on the power cord? 

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Reply #37 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:25am
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rkaires wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 5:52am:
texasmac wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:43pm:
I have an older RCBS & a newer PACT (both are made by PACT).  The readings on both would fluctuate until I installed a choke in the power cords.  Afterwards, no more problems.  No doubt it was the fluorescent lights or other high frequency electronics in my office/loading room.

A choke is a type of inductor that features a donut-shaped core with an coil wrapped around it. As the name implies, a choke cuts off or restricts high-frequency alternating current (AC).  Install the choke within a few inches of the scale since the power cord can pick up the hi-freq AC.

Wayne


Hi Wayne,

Do you have a picture of the choke you installed on the power cord? 

Thanks,
Bob


The chokes I've seen are just a donut you wrap your cord through a few times and nothing more. Internally these are just a coil wound with a lot of very tiny gauge copper wire around an iron core. You can choose how many wraps you do depending on how long your cord is.

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Reply #38 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:40am
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Vall
That same item is available on eBay for the same price.  I mean identical. For those of us who have an eBay addiction it is easier to click the button it now button like I just did!

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Reply #39 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:45am
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Bob,

Marlinguy's link is an example of the most common method to make a choke.  An easier technique is to tape or epoxy in place a few wraps of the power cord around a 1.5" to 2" bar magnet which is what I did.  The chokes on my scales are gray-covered lumps so the following photo is not much good.  Here's a link to a site that details other examples. (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links).

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Reply #40 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 1:20pm
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The coil of wire around a core sounds like some sort of transformer. No ? When I worked overseas with electronic testing equipment I used small transformers to get clean regulated power. Lots bigger than yours but I suspect same principle. 

Rick

Addendum: Well I am 180 degrees out of phase on this. My Wife, an electronics inspector just dope slapped me on this. Transformers are similar but two coiled and different animals so I’m not too proud to admit I’m full of it. 

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Reply #41 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:51pm
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texasmac wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:45am:
Bob,

Marlinguy's link is an example of the most common method to make a choke.  An easier technique is to tape or epoxy in place a few wraps of the power cord around a 1.5" to 2" bar magnet which is what I did.  The chokes on my scales are gray-covered lumps so the following photo is not much good.  Here's a link to a site that details other examples. (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links).

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Great! Thanks Wayne & Vall,

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Reply #42 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:01pm
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bpjack wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:40am:
Vall
That same item is available on eBay for the same price.  I mean identical. For those of us who have an eBay addiction it is easier to click the button it now button like I just did!

Jack




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Reply #43 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:15pm
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Here’s a “laymen’s” description of how a choke works.  

Weight scales can be sensitive to any fluctuations is the DC power supply.  The fluctuations may be induced into the line by high frequency AC sources nearby such as fluorescent lights, RF etc.  A chokes main function is to provide resistance to the AC while, at the same time, allowing DC to pass.  Hence the reason to place the choke within a few inches of the scale.  A choke coil works by the principle of self-induction.  The electrical field “induced” by wrapping the power cord around the ferrite core creates a magnetic field that resists the AC but allows the DC to pass.  By using short bar magnets, I used the existing magnetic field to make smaller simpler coils for my scales.

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Reply #44 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 12:16pm
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stevenjay1 wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:45pm:
Thanks Steveu, it worked!!

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