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Pedersoli Sharps (Glad mine is a C Sharps Arms)
Nov 21st, 2024 at 5:17pm
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I went to the range to blast away this morning and a gentleman that I have met there showed up with a used Pedersoli 74 in 45/70 and asked me to help him.  He had asked me several months back and I strongly suggested that he look for a C Sharps as he is not a competitor nor into BPCR rifles.  He decided that since he wasn't going to shoot it much to go with the rifle at the local gunshop.  Well the rifle looks nice but nothing compared to my C Sharps 75.  I explained that he needed to put the rifle on half cock most likely before opening the action.  He asked me to show him hot to shoot it so I set down at the bench and told him I would bore sight it first, even though we had the target at 25 yards.  The rear sight was a Pedersoli Tang sight about a foot long and when I folded it down I could just barely look down through the bore.  I centered on the target then flipped the sight up and saw that the sight was set way too high.  I lowered it as far as I could and looked again and it was still way off.  I loaded one in the chamber and pulled the hammer back to full cock.  It takes two boys or one strong man to pull that hammer back!  I then set the trigger and did not feel or hear it click so pulled the front trigger.  It has been a long time since I pulled a trigger that heavy.  I comletely missed the target at 25 yards so loaded another and told the owner and Range Safety Officer to stand behind me and see where my bullet would hit the berm.  It was 3 feet high they guessed!  I told him that the sight was on backwards and that we would have to turn the base around so I got my tool kit and did so.  I could not get the spring and detent on the sight in the right spot to hold the sight completely upright but was close enough to try.  The owner was going to shoot now and he had moved the target back to 100 yards so he blasted away and hit the paper.  I told him that since the gunshop where he had purchased the rifle from had installed the sight for him to take it back and have them adjust the spring as since I had cataract surgery this year I play hell seeing good up close for delicate work.  I also told him to adjust the set trigger as I was not sure of the proper procedure. My thoughts on the rifle is that it is not anywhere close to the quality of my C Sharps and that the sight might have been made by a student in basic metal class at the local high school. I told him to start doing thumb exercises so that he can pull the hammer back. Glad I have a C Sharps
  
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Re: Pedersoli Sharps (Glad mine is a C Sharps Arms)
Reply #1 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 6:23pm
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Back the set trigger screw out CCW to increase the pull weight. It's already in too far if it doesn't set.
The Pedersoli Sharps use a 2 piece firing pin/transfer bar like the Freund Sharps design, so don't break firing pins like the originals, or most copies do if not put on half cock.
Sounds like the issues he's got could be fixed, but had he bought a C Sharps he wouldn't likely have any of those issues.
  

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Reply #2 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 10:17am
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Both issues can be fixed with a little effort. I agree with Marlinguy on the triggers. You always want to hear that "click" when you set them.The hammer spring could be thinned or replaced as long as it doesn't become too weak to offer a strong enough strike.  As far as the rear sight if I were going to be serious about shooting the gun I would trash that old sight and refit with a better quality one. Something like a mid range MVA or something. Used sights can be found and bases can be had from MVA in case of an off brand sight. Those guns have a reputation of decent accuracy. You may have to smith it a little and find a good load but they will shoot. I have found all guns need a little work even the high dollar ones to operate properly. Anything mechanical can normally use a little tinkering to make it operate at it's best. Lord knows I am constantly tinkering with my guns for one reason or another...



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Re: Pedersoli Sharps (Glad mine is a C Sharps Arms)
Reply #3 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 11:48am
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My experiences with ped sharps have not been good, both the rifles and their customer service. I would not waste money buying a better sight for it but would advise returning/selling the ped to purchase something better.

Don't you love it when you try hard to give good advice and then they (receivers of advice) do the opposite and then don't understand why they are having problems.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 3:54pm
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I have had three different imported Sharps rifles and did a lot of shooting with them. They all have their issues. However, one thing I can say in their favor is that they consistently shot better than the us made Sharps rifles that my friends had, and the Pederaoli that another friend has shoots the best of all . I also have a Shiloh which is a great rifle too .
Based on my experience I would not categorically turn my nose up at the imported rifles 
We don’t know what kind of “bubba” gunsmithing was done to the triggers or sight 
The first Sharps I bought was on sale for $150 (a long time ago) and that is all I could afford but it got me started 
The triggers and sights can be fixed . Until that is done we really don’t know what the potential of the rifle is
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Reply #5 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:04am
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Not really a case of foreign made is junk and people are stupid to not take advice to avoid imported rifles.

It's really more a balancing of cost/benefits.  It's a lot like the Snap-on tools vs Gearwrench and Harbor Freight discussions on mechanics sites.  Yes, you would have a higher probability of satisfaction and success with the several times as expensive items.  But, you may not be able or want to afford the higher price, but still want a usable item.

Pedersoli stuff falls into this category.  The basic rifle is a good 95% finished kit for you to work on and gain some sweat equity.  Fix the triggers, buy a decent sight and install it right, debur and polish some of the mechanical parts if needed,  fix or replace parts if they prematurely wear out, fill the pores and sand and finish the wood the way you like it.  But, if it fits your budget and it's what you can afford, go for it.   

I would classify C Sharps in the "somewhat reliable" class, same as the Pedersoli.  Both better than IAB Sharps (It always Breaks is what IAB stands for).  Neither are a Shiloh.  Both have had both successes and massive failures in customer service over the years.   

I personally worked on 3 C Sharps rifles this year, that had some pretty basic things that hadn't been take care of right in their construction.  Fixable, but not what should have made it past QC.  I've worked on Pedersoli's also, but not recently.  I just say no, because I can, and do.  I have to say Pedersoli has gotten better since the old Navy Arms days, till there's a pretty good chance you can make a decent rifle out of a recently made one without a lot of work.  Some of the early ones were poorly made, had poor metallurgy, and had improper hardening.  A lot of the bad experiences people have had with Pedersoli relate to those earlier guns, and not the more recent production.
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:26am
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then there is the matter of retained or  resale value
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 10:28am
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When it comes to modern 1874 Sharps the level of quality goes down when compared the the Shiloh followed closely by the C Sharps then the Eye Towel Yan versions. All can be tuned to perform better but out of the box those in the know  know their money is better spent on the good ole American versions.
  
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