Are the nickled tong tools with dbl. adj. chamber in .22 Savage High Power rare?  I cannot recall seeing such a set.  Would be interested in purchasing.

Any nickeled 310 tools are rarely found. Add to that any rare cartridge and they are nearly impossible to find.
I often see 310 tools complete in the original box with great condition, in common cartridges going $75. Add another $25-$50 for rare cartridges in the same condition. But can't begin to guess what a nickeled 310 in a rare cartridge would sell for. Just don't see them to even make a guess.

frnkeore wrote on Oct 10^th, 2024 at 1:58pm:


Don't think I've ever seen a 310 tool with tongs for a separate Ideal mold Frank? That's got to be extremely rare! I can ask Tom Quigley whose the president of the Antique Reloading Tool Collectors what he thinks and get back to you on his evaluation.

Does it have the full set of dies, box, etc.?

I have Ideal that has a .38 special priming die and a set of .44-77 dies.

Kurt

Thank you, Vall.

There was probably enough "meat" on the ends of the blanks for the #6 tools (if not the #4s) to dress the mould blocks down to tangs for detachable mould blocks.  I think the handles were malleable iron castings and not suitable for welding.

Top is a single-adjustable #6 for the .40-65 with integral mould; bottom is a #4 with detachable mould blocks in .38 Special.  With the hinges at the same position, and allowing for the excess that would be machined off square for the integral mould blocks, they come out pretty even.

Not to be pedantic (yeah, right), but the nickeled Ideal tools could be #3s or #10s, but not both.  When their functions were combined in the Lyman 310, the best you got were the leftover Ideal cast handles blued by the hot-dunk process to a purple color.  Like when you hot-blue Stevens 44 frames and levers.

Later, when those blanks were used up, Lyman went to the black painted cast pot-metal handles that we mostly see now.

Cbashooter wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 3:20pm:



Not sure where your friend got his info, but it's incorrect. First off Rockwell had no part in Marlin until the beginning of WWI when the Marlin sons sold Marlin to Rockwell Corporation. And They did sell Ideal tools around 1914, but never filed for bankruptcy. Simply ran Ideal tools into the ground, and finally bailed on it and sold out.
In 1919 the sons sold Marlin to Rockwell long after selling Ideal off. Rockwell had one plan and it was to profit from War sales. After WWI the officers of Marlin-Rockwell purchased Marlin from Rockwell and attempted to return to sporting rifles. But by 1923 they had filed for bankruptcy and the company was purchased from the courts by Frank Kenna Sr. who successfully rebuilt it and kept it going until it sold to Remington in 2008.