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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2758 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Sep 20^th, 2024 at 3:57pm	Print Post
	This info was in my sale add and will go away soon. I decided to recreate some of it here for posterior. Jack

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2758 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #1 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 3:57pm	Print Post
	One issue with Ballard seaters is that the case really needs to be screwed on to the seater body like Russ Weber made them because the portion of the rim that contacts the extractor needs to be removed and a part of the body relieved to allow the extractor to pivot back. If not the hammer is higher when the extractor is fully forward. I suppose I could make a cam seater and leave it square far enough back to have a flat attachment point where the owner could mount a strap (spring loaded steel) that would attach to a stud added to the receiver. I don’t really see a market for that though. The stirrup style seaters work fine with no modifications. The brass hook for that style would be more suited to a casting than the machining process. The one I have is not perfect as it has a tendency to want to come up and I have to hold it in with my left hand from under the receiver.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2758 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #2 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	Russ Hooks Seaters courtesy of Joe Feldman

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2758 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #3 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	More from Joe

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16091 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #4 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 7:06pm	Print Post
	Many years ago I bought a half dozen cast brass hooks to use to make Ballard breech seaters in the For Sale section here. I made up two, and let some friends buy the others. Mine is a "plow handle" style that works well with a iron sighted gun, or a scope. It has lots of leverage and seating bullets is a snap with it. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Then in a conversation with Jerry Cleave one day he mentioned he had a Ballard tool his uncle Charlie Poole had made based on a Schoyen breech seating tool and I asked if he could make me a copy. He agreed to make it, and said later it was a very difficult project to build, and he wouldn't ever do another. It also works extremely well and I love using it! It is a beautiful tool like everything Jerry makes! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1473 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #5 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 7:22pm	Print Post
	Thanks to Vall’s help, I made a copy of his for my Ballard. And, I can confirm the work it takes to make one. Bob

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dragonblood9 Newbie Offline Posts: 8 Location: mesa, az Joined: Aug 20^th, 2021	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #6 - Sep 21^st, 2024 at 4:40pm	Print Post
	beautiful pictures! I don't use them but, i enjoy the different tools. does the "cartridge" just ride in a shallow channel or is there a rail on the left side ?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16091 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #7 - Sep 21^st, 2024 at 7:35pm	Print Post
	The cartridge case usually doesn't ride in anything, and enters the chamber the same as it would if the cartridge had a fixed bullet seated in it. But in the case of a breech seated bullet the bullet is dropped in the chamber, and then the tool into the action and handle pulled to push the bullet into the bore. Tool is then removed and charged/primed case is inserted behind the bullet. Most set their seating depth of the bullet to just deep enough for the case mouth to almost touch the bullet base.

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jfeldman ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1082 Location: Imperial Beach, Ca Joined: Nov 5^th, 2005	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #8 - Sep 21^st, 2024 at 8:11pm	Print Post
	Jack, We need to credit "Smoke" for the first Russ Hooks seater. Regards, Joe


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GunBum Full Member Offline Posts: 187 Location: SW Missouri Joined: Oct 30^th, 2021	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #9 - Sep 21^st, 2024 at 8:46pm	Print Post
	dragonblood9 wrote on Sep 21^st, 2024 at 4:40pm: beautiful pictures! I don't use them but, i enjoy the different tools. does the "cartridge" just ride in a shallow channel or is there a rail on the left side ? The push bar, or whatever you call it, and the dummy case ride in the shallow channel. I’ve never seen one with a rail/guide slot.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1473 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #10 - Sep 22^nd, 2024 at 11:06am	Print Post
	jfeldman wrote on Sep 21^st, 2024 at 8:11pm: Jack, We need to credit "Smoke" for the first Russ Hooks seater. Regards, Joe Joe or Jack, how is the bar on top the frame held to the gun on the Russ Hooks seater? Is it a extension of the scope base? Bob

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2758 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #11 - Sep 22^nd, 2024 at 11:22am	Print Post
	It is screwed in to the existing rear scope base holes. Not sure on his whether he just uses longer screws for the scope base or has the piece drilled and tapped for a base. Most likely the former.

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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 785 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #12 - Sep 22^nd, 2024 at 11:50am	Print Post
	Here is THEE BS for A Ballard. Bought off a forum member a couple years back. Simple,compact,A piece of art.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16091 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #13 - Sep 22^nd, 2024 at 4:50pm	Print Post
	Skalkaho wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2024 at 11:50am: Here is THEE BS for A Ballard. Bought off a forum member a couple years back. Simple, compact, A piece of art. Very simple, but appears with the vertical handle it might not work with a scoped Ballard?

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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 785 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: Some Stuff About Ballard Seaters Reply #14 - Sep 22^nd, 2024 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	The last pic shows in loading position.Handle is horizontal to breech and under scope.....I'll have to dig out my Ballard tomorrow....

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