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Re: busted brass
Reply #15 - Sep 13th, 2024 at 12:15pm
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oughtsix wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 7:35am:
frnkeore wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 2:20am:
Are you keeping track of case strength?

I haven't shot BP for quite a while but, when I did, it was common in 32/40, to get case separation, shooting breech seated.

Because of it's slow burn and compaction, BP creates friction on the case walls, at ignition and that pulls on the case walls, allowing separation. I'll say it happened about 1 out of 100 shots, shooting a single case.

You might try polishing the interior of the case, down to where they are separating.


I'm new to black powder, never heard of testing for case strength.  How you you do that?   Always something new....

shooting fixed, btw

After 5-10 firings, you need to measure the cases, to see if they are growing in length. If they are, they are stretching

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Re: busted brass
Reply #16 - Sep 13th, 2024 at 12:30pm
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I use a bore pig setup to control fouling after each shot. But I don't use a bore mop to follow the bore pigs as they tend to gather moisture and only get the chamber dry for a few shots before they're saturated. So I use a dry patch in the chamber, and down the bore after each pass with my bore pigs. My bore pigs also aren't soaking wet, just damp. I dip the felts in my mix of NAPA water soluable cutting fluid and water and then put them into plastic cartridge boxes before heading to the range.
  

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Re: busted brass
Reply #17 - Sep 13th, 2024 at 1:29pm
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Wesg, I had a 71/84 like that. Took a lot of work to get all the cosmoline off and out of it. They were beautifully made. Amazing that they sold for like $19.95 back then (early 1960s).
  
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Re: busted brass
Reply #18 - Sep 13th, 2024 at 10:27pm
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I was just a child in the early 60's. This was a fair bit more 'spensive...

There's a Persian 98/2x 8mm that's as nice or better. Ran into the seller at a show, a buddy of his would sort thru them and ship him the nicest one.

That Persian 8mm ... 'yeah, that one was nice. You should have seen the first one he sent, had a stock like a Weatherby... UPS broke it in half, I nearly cried'.
  
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Re: busted brass
Reply #19 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 5:02pm
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Originally,  I had trimmed them to 2.250" per COW.  A chamber cast suggests that my chamber may be 2.215.  So...... I've just spent the last two days trimming and cleaning (inside and out) the 127 remaining brass.  That's tiresome!

Hope to get out to the range this week to see if that fixes the problem.
  

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Re: busted brass
Reply #20 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 6:32pm
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I am ignorant to all things pertaining to black powder and lead bullets but how can a damp chamber cause this to happen.
I suppose it must do as it doesn't happen if the chamber is dry.
A few years ago now I bought a custom made highwall in 7mm/303 imp. The guy I bought it from had also bought it from somebody else and had only put a few rounds through it and used the loads given years ago from a well known writer who I can't now remember his name due no doubt to loosing my marbles with age.
As I never use somebody's else's reloads which he gave me I cleaned the cases up with fine wire wool before pulling the bullets and this is what happened.
I thought perhaps he hadn't washed the cases after sizing and left lube in the cases which caused the corrosion on the brass.
The rifle came with custom made dies which fit the chamber perfectly and thanks again to Bulseytom who with his computer worked out some loads using ADI powder as I couldn't find anything on the internet.
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Re: busted brass
Reply #21 - Sep 17th, 2024 at 4:28am
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beltfed wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 9:50am:
The two cases on the left sure look like they were longer term corroded before firing this last time due probably to not being cleaned after previously shooting them. BP fired cases Must be cleaned in soap and water, preferably in a tumbler with ceramic or SS pins.
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They look a lot like they were separated upon being fired, laid aside for a good while then photographed and posted here. I don't see any other explanation for what we're seeing.                                                                              
  
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