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NZVintagehunter Participating Member Offline Posts: 13 Location: NZ Joined: May 12^th, 2020	Ballard dual ignition percussion nipple size Sep 3^rd, 2024 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	I recently brought a very nice condition Ball & Williams Ballard 44 RF Sporting Rifle with the Merwin & Bray 1864 Patent dual ignition breech block. The percussion nipple is missing from the block. But the threads look to be in reasonable condition so I would like to fit a correct nipple if I can find one Can anyone please tell me the specifications for this nipple and perhaps cross reference it to the Track of The Wolf offerings ? The rifle is in extremely good condition. Serial number places it in 1865 Bore is 9/10 I have made one reloadable RF case ( from 7x57R ) and fired it very successfully Awaiting some 44 Special cases to arrive and I will make some more reloadable cases and take it hunting.


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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1017 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Ballard dual ignition percussion nipple size Reply #1 - Sep 4^th, 2024 at 5:35am	Print Post
	I can't help with the cone threads. But I have a .44 rimfire Ball & Williams Ballard that I shoot. I'm glad to see another one back in action. You may have seen my youtube video about shooting mine. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I also have videos on making reloadable rimfire cases. Steve


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NZVintagehunter Participating Member Offline Posts: 13 Location: NZ Joined: May 12^th, 2020	Re: Ballard dual ignition percussion nipple size Reply #2 - Sep 4^th, 2024 at 6:01am	Print Post
	I shoot 25 Rimfire, 32 Rimfire and 44 Rimfire now All pretty easy when you have a bit of knowledge. I just want to complete the Ballard with the correct percussion nipple because the rifle is in such good condition. The dual ignition is a great feature and it would be nice to show people because its so different


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MerwinBray Oldtimer Offline Aw Gees Posts: 935 Location: Kansas City, KS Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Ballard dual ignition percussion nipple size Reply #3 - Sep 5^th, 2024 at 9:52am	Print Post
	I would give S&S firearms a try. They often have parts for these old Ballards and many others.

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NZVintagehunter Participating Member Offline Posts: 13 Location: NZ Joined: May 12^th, 2020	Re: Ballard dual ignition percussion nipple size Reply #4 - Sep 5^th, 2024 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	Yeah I tried S&S and they didn't know the size or have anything obviously suitable. Next time I have the breech block out to clean after I've shot it I will disassemble the halves and measure the treads. Should be able to measure the maximum length as well. I just thought someone on here might have known the specs for it. Funny these things are all written about in books etc. But no one drills into the detail and what cap size


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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 644 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Ballard dual ignition percussion nipple size Reply #5 - Sep 5^th, 2024 at 6:09pm	Print Post
	Dissassemble the halfs? Mine is a one piece block. Charles


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TomKlinger Junior Member Offline Posts: 71 Joined: Feb 17^th, 2019	Re: Ballard dual ignition percussion nipple size Reply #6 - Sep 5^th, 2024 at 6:24pm	Print Post
	I have a Merrimack Ballard with the same dual ignition system. An original 1860 Colt navy pistol nipple worked in mine…I compared it to the origonal nipple and it was an exact match… Tom Klinger


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NZVintagehunter Participating Member Offline Posts: 13 Location: NZ Joined: May 12^th, 2020	Re: Ballard dual ignition percussion nipple size Reply #7 - Sep 6^th, 2024 at 5:44am	Print Post
	bohemianway wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 6:09pm: Dissassemble the halfs? Mine is a one piece block. Charles The one piece block was not dual ignition


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NZVintagehunter Participating Member Offline Posts: 13 Location: NZ Joined: May 12^th, 2020	Re: Ballard dual ignition percussion nipple size Reply #8 - Sep 6^th, 2024 at 5:47am	Print Post
	TomKlinger wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 6:24pm: I have a Merrimack Ballard with the same dual ignition system. An original 1860 Colt navy pistol nipple worked in mine…I compared it to the origonal nipple and it was an exact match… Tom Klinger Well that makes sense to use a small readily available nipple from the same period I will look on line at the specs for the Colt 1860 nipple and measure the threads in mine


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