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Aug 24th, 2024 at 5:20pm
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What are the possible causes of leading and how best to remove it?
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 5:53pm
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Babydriver
Perhaps if you describe what you are now doing it would go a long way to diagnosing what may be causing your leading.
Information that would be helpful:
- lead alloy you are using
- diameter(s) of your bullet
- bullet lubricant
- bore and groove diameters of your barrel
- loading method such as fixed or breech seated
- muzzle velocity -approx
- powder & charge
- cartridge i.e., .45-70, .32-40?
- is leading severe or light
There's always more factors that can cause leading but there are lots of helpful folks on this site who would be willing to help if they have some starting info.
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Reply #2 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 6:47pm
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Thanks for the reply. It will take a year or two to gather that data. I’ll be back.😂😂😂😂👍👍
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 6:49pm
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Start slow such as fixed or breach seating. Alloy?
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 9:27pm
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I’ll take some measurements over the next week. Thanks again.
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 1:08am
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I just cleaned up a badly leaded barrel with sharp shooter No Lead. Worked great and cleaned up without a lot of elbow grease. 

In general, the cause is likely either the bullet is sized incorrectly for the bore, or the lube is not working for your load. Should have a "lube star" on your muzzle after firing for a bit. That will tell you if your lube is making it all the way to the muzzle
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 3:35am
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To add to RSW's questions:

Barrel length
Bore condition
location of leading
  

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Reply #7 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 3:23pm
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For severe leading nothing beats filling the bore with mercury. Wear gloves, don't eat it, let set a spell and pour out thru cheese cloth back into the bottle. The cloth removes the lead which floats on mercury. A simple patch wipe cleans the bore to like new. Use a rubber plug to stop bore, not a dowel as the mercury will weep through the capillaries.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 4:13pm
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My only two causes of leading, regardless of other factors, are to hot of weather and wrong lube for those temps and under size bullets.
  

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Reply #9 - Aug 26th, 2024 at 8:33am
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seat a bullet in the barrel and put a bore light  behind .  if you see light around the bullet, get a bigger bullet to start.
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 26th, 2024 at 8:37am
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If breech seating make sure your seating deep is enough to seal and not get blow by.
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 29th, 2024 at 3:45pm
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I’ve always wondered about twist rate and bullets skidding in the first inch or so.   Had a .375 once that gave me fits compared to the 38-55 and 32-40 with the slower twist, no matter what variable (above) I controlled for.   I could shoot for weeks with the 38-55 and 32-40 with no leading at all.   About all I could shoot with that 1:11 twist in the .375 was 80 rnds before accuracy fell off.   I could count on shards on my patch.
  

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Re: Leading
Reply #12 - Aug 29th, 2024 at 4:20pm
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I shoot a .32 caliber bullet .002" wider than my groove-to-groove diameter 11.5 twist barrel using 20:1 lead:tin alloy with Alberta Schuetzen Lube at 1,526 fps and I have NO leading after 120 rounds even at 110 F.

Much of the leading occurs from using an alloy that is too hard so the gas goes around the bullet instead of having the base properly seal from the bumped softer alloy.

Or the bullet is too narrow that allows gas cutting around the bullet.

I have used 20:1 alloy with .002" wider bullets with all calibers from .25 to .50 caliber without experiencing leading even with plain base cast bullets even at 1,856 fps.

When breech seating make sure at least half of the base band is engraved by the lands to ensure you have a good seal.

My base band is completely engraved when I breech seat.

For fixed ammo I ensure my bullet concentricity is within .001" to ensure I do not get shaving of a tipped bullet when it enters the throat.
This is achieved by using unsized fired cases, using an inline seater and compressing the necks for consistent neck pressure after I have inserted the bullets (using a neck seater with the depriming rod removed).
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