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Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep
Aug 8th, 2024 at 6:20pm
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What powders are recommended for shooting the 38-50?  I would like to hunt whitetails with a jacketed bullet in my rifle and I would like to know what powders work in large volume black powder cartridges?

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Reply #1 - Aug 8th, 2024 at 6:38pm
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5744. Or Trail Boss.
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 8th, 2024 at 8:40pm
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Are either readily available today?  Forgive my ignorance please, I don’t think I have loaded in quite some time….
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Reply #3 - Aug 8th, 2024 at 8:45pm
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You'll just have to see what's out there in your local area.
  
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Thanks, I will.
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Reply #5 - Aug 8th, 2024 at 10:04pm
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The big suppliers on the internet seem to be out.  I will keep an eye out for Accurate 5744 when I am out and about.
I do have IMR 4198 and Accurate 2015 which both seem to be recommended for 45-70.  I will have to search my loading tables for these two powders.

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Reply #6 - Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:33am
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I suggest you look at smokeless 38-55 and 375Win loads in the handbooks, LYman #50 . You can work up in your (Modern, I hope) rifle with the 38-50 which has about 10% greater case capacity over the 38-55 .
I found an excellent deer hunt load for my Marlin 336CB 38-55 with Reloader 7.   Similar in burn rate to old IMR 3031which was and is a go-to for relatively straight wall cases. 

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the 3031 for full loads in my '86 Win 45-70. Then graduated to 4895 or Varget when I ran out of 3031
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Reply #7 - Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:54am
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Thanks beltfed, I will check out those resources.  My IMR 3031 is my lightest container, indicating how popular it was 25 years ago in my reloading room.
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Reply #8 - Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:32pm
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here u go,from 1967 Ken Waters in Shooting Times
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 10th, 2024 at 10:15am
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Thanks Cbashooter.
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:03pm
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WV, at the velocities involved the deer will never know whether the bullet had a jacket or not.
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:52pm
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Well…….  The way I learned to reload ammo, oneatatime, one uses jacketed bullets with white powder and greased grooved bullets with black powder…. I guess I was not brought up right??


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Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep
Reply #12 - Aug 10th, 2024 at 8:38pm
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If you were brought up in West Virginia I'm sure you were brought up right! I suppose Ken Waters wasn't though as every load on that page was white powder and lead bullets - OK, 3 of them had gas checks and 1 was a half jacket;-) I was just making a comment on the deer's reaction to being shot. Let's go at it a different way: what rifle do you have? What bullet were you thinking of using? What is the groove diameter of your barrel?
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Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep
Reply #13 - Aug 15th, 2024 at 4:32am
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i have been using 4198 and a cast bullet of 285 gr. in my rolling block. The charge weight is 23 gr. I would call it mostly a target load as if i remember correctly the velocity was fairly slow. Tomorrow i will check my records and see if i ran it over the chronograph. The one thing i can say it is accurate most loads going 1.5 inches with some right at an inch at 100 yards.  Ken Waters lists 23 gr of 4198 in the 38-55 at 1450 fps with a 250 gr. bullet. that should be close to the 38/50 and if it does 1450 or so it should drop anything you hit with it. Waters lists 3 categories of rifles and this load is for his weakest action rifles. Hope this helps
  

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Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep
Reply #14 - Aug 15th, 2024 at 10:13pm
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You know I am going to build me one of those if I can ever find a chamber reamer. Those things are like hens teeth. Tried two grind houses and both have unbelievable lead times. I am taking notes here so if I ever do get it done I will have some load info.




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