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WVsmoke Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Location: West Virginia Joined: Feb 17^th, 2023	Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Aug 8^th, 2024 at 6:20pm	Print Post
	What powders are recommended for shooting the 38-50? I would like to hunt whitetails with a jacketed bullet in my rifle and I would like to know what powders work in large volume black powder cartridges? Allan


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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 694 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #1 - Aug 8^th, 2024 at 6:38pm	Print Post
	5744. Or Trail Boss.


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WVsmoke Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Location: West Virginia Joined: Feb 17^th, 2023	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #2 - Aug 8^th, 2024 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	Are either readily available today? Forgive my ignorance please, I don’t think I have loaded in quite some time…. Thanks, Allan


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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 694 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #3 - Aug 8^th, 2024 at 8:45pm	Print Post
	You'll just have to see what's out there in your local area.


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WVsmoke Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Location: West Virginia Joined: Feb 17^th, 2023	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #4 - Aug 8^th, 2024 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	Thanks, I will. Allan


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WVsmoke Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Location: West Virginia Joined: Feb 17^th, 2023	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #5 - Aug 8^th, 2024 at 10:04pm	Print Post
	The big suppliers on the internet seem to be out. I will keep an eye out for Accurate 5744 when I am out and about. I do have IMR 4198 and Accurate 2015 which both seem to be recommended for 45-70. I will have to search my loading tables for these two powders. Allan


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1759 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #6 - Aug 9^th, 2024 at 9:33am	Print Post
	I suggest you look at smokeless 38-55 and 375Win loads in the handbooks, LYman #50 . You can work up in your (Modern, I hope) rifle with the 38-50 which has about 10% greater case capacity over the 38-55 . I found an excellent deer hunt load for my Marlin 336CB 38-55 with Reloader 7. Similar in burn rate to old IMR 3031which was and is a go-to for relatively straight wall cases. I had also used the 3031 for full loads in my '86 Win 45-70. Then graduated to 4895 or Varget when I ran out of 3031 beltfed/arnie


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WVsmoke Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Location: West Virginia Joined: Feb 17^th, 2023	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #7 - Aug 9^th, 2024 at 9:54am	Print Post
	Thanks beltfed, I will check out those resources. My IMR 3031 is my lightest container, indicating how popular it was 25 years ago in my reloading room. Allan


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #8 - Aug 9^th, 2024 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	here u go,from 1967 Ken Waters in Shooting Times


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WVsmoke Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Location: West Virginia Joined: Feb 17^th, 2023	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #9 - Aug 10^th, 2024 at 10:15am	Print Post
	Thanks Cbashooter.


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3912 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #10 - Aug 10^th, 2024 at 7:03pm	Print Post
	WV, at the velocities involved the deer will never know whether the bullet had a jacket or not.


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WVsmoke Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Location: West Virginia Joined: Feb 17^th, 2023	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #11 - Aug 10^th, 2024 at 7:52pm	Print Post
	Well……. The way I learned to reload ammo, oneatatime, one uses jacketed bullets with white powder and greased grooved bullets with black powder…. I guess I was not brought up right?? Allan


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3912 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #12 - Aug 10^th, 2024 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	If you were brought up in West Virginia I'm sure you were brought up right! I suppose Ken Waters wasn't though as every load on that page was white powder and lead bullets - OK, 3 of them had gas checks and 1 was a half jacket;-) I was just making a comment on the deer's reaction to being shot. Let's go at it a different way: what rifle do you have? What bullet were you thinking of using? What is the groove diameter of your barrel?
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argie1891 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 267 Location: selah, washington Joined: Jul 8^th, 2010	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #13 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 4:32am	Print Post
	i have been using 4198 and a cast bullet of 285 gr. in my rolling block. The charge weight is 23 gr. I would call it mostly a target load as if i remember correctly the velocity was fairly slow. Tomorrow i will check my records and see if i ran it over the chronograph. The one thing i can say it is accurate most loads going 1.5 inches with some right at an inch at 100 yards. Ken Waters lists 23 gr of 4198 in the 38-55 at 1450 fps with a 250 gr. bullet. that should be close to the 38/50 and if it does 1450 or so it should drop anything you hit with it. Waters lists 3 categories of rifles and this load is for his weakest action rifles. Hope this helps

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1554 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #14 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 10:13pm	Print Post
	You know I am going to build me one of those if I can ever find a chamber reamer. Those things are like hens teeth. Tried two grind houses and both have unbelievable lead times. I am taking notes here so if I ever do get it done I will have some load info. JMH


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argie1891 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 267 Location: selah, washington Joined: Jul 8^th, 2010	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #15 - Aug 16^th, 2024 at 3:59am	Print Post
	I found the information on loading the 38/50 Remington Hepburn. Bullet is Bud Welch 285 gr. cast fairly soft 23 gr. imr 4198 ran 5 over the chronograph and got a high of 1496 low of 1463 average 1473 fps e.s. of 33fps. this load shot very well in my rifle.

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WVsmoke Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Location: West Virginia Joined: Feb 17^th, 2023	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #16 - Aug 16^th, 2024 at 11:29am	Print Post
	Thanks Argie, that is helpful. I will use my 4198 since I have that on hand. It is hard to find any powder I really want. I have hunted with the holy black with this load, but I found that too much time can elapse before a follow up shot with very disappointing results. I guess I could have brought a blow tube, but I did not think of that. JHM- I have this loading in a high wall action and a light hunting profile barrel and it is my favorite 100 yd deer rifle. The 38-50 is just sexy enough cartridge with a payload to get a deer’s attention. Allan


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2324 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #17 - Aug 16^th, 2024 at 12:13pm	Print Post
	One other thought would be to look up info for the .375 Flanged Nitro Express. I think it's a very similar cartridge from what I've read. Chris.


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3912 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Smokeless powder for 38-50 Rem-Hep Reply #18 - Aug 16^th, 2024 at 6:34pm	Print Post
	The white powder load for my 38-50 CPA uses a lighter bullet (Lyman 378674 335 gr sized .378) than my BP load (360 GR). The most accurate load with it is 19 grains of H4198 giving an average velocity of 1206 fps. I've also tried 375449 GC 265 gr with best accuracy at 18.5-19 grains of 2015 and around 19 grains of 5744 but the accuracy has no comparison to the 378674.


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