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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2825 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	An old No. 5 Roller May 17^th, 2024 at 9:03pm	Print Post
	I have an old No. 5 Remington Rolling Block. It's a 7x57 military rifle, with a barrel that squeezes a round ball down to about .287 at the breech and again at the muzzle, but for about a foot somewhere in the middle, the slug just drops. I'm not a hunter, but I'd like to make the old roller into a something with a shorter barrel. There is a lot of .223, and especially 5.56 mm military stuff around. Would that work?


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GunBum Full Member Offline Posts: 166 Location: SW Missouri Joined: Oct 30^th, 2021	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #1 - May 17^th, 2024 at 10:38pm	Print Post
	Staying with the same rim diameter makes for an easier rebarrel. Going to a smaller case makes for a pain adjusting the extractor. It’s not as simple as changing the barrel. .223/5.56 is higher pressure than 7x57, but a smaller case head, so lower breech thrust. Safe? Probably. Good idea? Not in my opinion.


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1397 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #2 - May 17^th, 2024 at 10:38pm	Print Post
	Those are the "stronger" of the roller actions but you need to look at pressures and make your decision. I am sure someone here can help you with that. I rebarreled one with a Douglas barrel a few years back and he went with the original 7x57 round. JMH


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2825 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #3 - May 18^th, 2024 at 3:59am	Print Post
	Thanks, guys. I wasn't sure it was a good idea. How about a new barrel in .30-30? Would the extractor work?


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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1593 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #4 - May 18^th, 2024 at 5:38am	Print Post
	Yes, the extractor should work with only minor stoning with 30-30 head size cartridges.

	"We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo “There is no situation so bad that it cannot be made worse." Confidence- The feeling you get before you fully understand the situation.
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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 797 Location: Annapolis, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #5 - May 18^th, 2024 at 10:11am	Print Post
	Following this discussion. Has anyone here done a .30-40 Krag conversion on a #5?


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4060may Full Member Offline Posts: 173 Location: Richfield Joined: Jul 12^th, 2006	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #6 - May 18^th, 2024 at 10:30am	Print Post
	Yes on a .43 whatever action, rotary extractor firing pin is a little large, not a problem if you keep the load sensible I also have a No.5, with a sliding extractor, original 7mm, barreled to 38-55, had to make an extractor, wasn't comfortable welding the original keep in mind both no.5 were set up for rimless also mine is a 1897, with the large barrel threads


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RBKenn Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 257 Location: fallon Joined: Apr 8^th, 2011	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #7 - May 18^th, 2024 at 3:24pm	Print Post
	Remington factory chambered the 30-40 Krag on 1897 actions for both military and sporting rifles. The 30-40k makes a fine hunting rifle when built on a 1902/1910 action.


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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 797 Location: Annapolis, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #8 - May 18^th, 2024 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	Ok, but how about with a 1902/1910 action with rotary extractor? That's what I have to work with.


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John Taylor Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1678 Location: Lewiston, ID Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2006	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #9 - May 19^th, 2024 at 12:39pm	Print Post
	I put a long octagon barrel in 38-55 on one of my #5s, works great and not much recoil.

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4060may Full Member Offline Posts: 173 Location: Richfield Joined: Jul 12^th, 2006	Re: An old No. 5 Roller Reply #10 - May 19^th, 2024 at 3:06pm	Print Post
	welded the extractor and fitted to the 30-40K rim easy enough if you know a good welder fitting to the barrel requires a lot of patience


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