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English stock?
May 14th, 2024 at 4:00am
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I am looking to buy a double barreled shotgun with a straight stock. This seems to be called an "English Stock". Where does this name come from? I am looking at Simson and Merkel.
  
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Reply #1 - May 15th, 2024 at 6:20pm
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The English gun makers use a straight grip as the standard on shotguns, pistol grip on rifles.  This was true from about 1860 until today.   Variations are available, of course.
  
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Reply #2 - May 23rd, 2024 at 8:58am
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straight stock for snap shooting...pistol grip for pass shooting.....
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 2:58am
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terry buffum wrote on May 15th, 2024 at 6:20pm:
The English gun makers use a straight grip as the standard on shotguns, pistol grip on rifles.  This was true from about 1860 until today.   Variations are available, of course.


That was the general rule..
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 8:41am
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I think that a reason for straight, thin-wristed, wispy stocks on English doubles (in addition to pure aesthetics) was to reduce a bit of weight in the aft end (of a generally lightweight gun) to put the balance point of the gun that little bit farther forward to aid in smoothly swinging onto a target. JMO.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 2:52pm
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A lot of English shooting was at driven birds, high and in-coming.   Longer stocks than we use were common. seldom under 14". Straight stocks suit this very well. Much of U.S. bird shooting is fairly deliberate going-away shots, and most of our modern shotguns are single trigger, both of which are better adapted to shorter PG stocks.   My own preference is double triggers and a "half-grip".  Just enough curve to let you know where your hand is.   I have used double trigger guns for 65-70 years, and all I have to do is think "long shot", and will have fired the 2nd trigger.  Alas, all the hunting buddies are getting old and feeble, and the dogs have all died....
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Reply #6 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 3:11pm
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I just love a straight stock with a long tang and a checkered butt!
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 6:45pm
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Gorgeous Bob,love the side by side. I tried different 20 gauges back in 1987.Finally settled on the Ithaca SKB 680 O&U,I'd close my eyes and snap it up and I'd be right there....Taken alot of grouse and afew pheasants .....
  
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