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50-70 vs Buffalo
May 5th, 2024 at 2:37pm
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I was able to shoot a 2 year old meat buffalo with my 50-70 Roller.  I planned on using my 40-85 original Ballard Pacific but had two case separations in the last few weeks and chickened out as I did not have time to order new brass to fireform before the trip.  The Rolling Block is a #5 that I purchased with a varmint weight barrel in 250-3000 and decided to do something different with the rifle after having it 6 or 7 years.  I had JES rebore to 50-70 and Curt Hardcastle fit a new extractor.  I bought two molds from Accurate Molds, one in 450 gr and the other 510 gr.  The 510 grain mold casts a 512 gr bullet with my 16:1 alloy and was lubed with SPG Tropic.  I was shooting #5744 but switched to Re 7 for the hunt as it gave me 1350 fps and shoots about moa.  My eyes have gotten worse (going in for cataract surgery next week) and I have a 2.5x8 Leupold mounted on it.  We finally worked our way to within 100 yard of the group and waited them out until the 2 year old came clear.  Shooting of sticks I let him have it and it was obvious that he was hit.  We had to work around to get a broadside shot as he turned when he went back to the herd.  The second shot was at 77 yards and it reacted again and walked a few steps then went down on its knees.  The other buffalo were trying to get it to stand up and we went back to the side by side and drove up to chase them off.  That took some doing!  I was glad I was not on a horse!  They finally trotted off and we were able to approach to 20 yards where I shot it behind the ear for the coup de grace.  They estimated 850 pounds live weight and I got close to 300 pounds of meat, the majority burger.  Although you can't really call it a hent but more of a harvest, my heart rate got up when we were standing that close to 30 buffalo for several minutes trying to get a clear broadside shot.  Both shots were through the lungs with the first hitting part of the lower shoulder.  It was obviously sick after the first shot and even after the second shot a minute or so later it was standing with it;s head down.  The second shot had about the same effect as the first for probably a minute before it tryied to walk off and couldn't.  Follow up shots were not easy as it was never broadside and the main herd had come to withing 60 yards.  I can see why the 50 caliber was the weapon of choice for the early hunters as these animals are tough!
  
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Reply #1 - May 5th, 2024 at 2:40pm
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The bullets started out at 512 grains.  The flattened one weighs 502 grains and hit some bone in the shoulder.  It was found inside the rib cavity when gutting.  The second bullet passed between ribs on both sides and weights 510 grains.  It was found in the hide while skinning.  Tom
  
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Picture of the buffalo once he dropped
  
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Reply #3 - May 6th, 2024 at 2:09pm
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Excellent!!! Thanks for sharing!
  
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Reply #4 - May 6th, 2024 at 3:20pm
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Well done. Had the chance forty years ago, but just couldn't pull the trigger.
  

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Reply #5 - May 6th, 2024 at 5:01pm
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Great story, nice job.
  
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Reply #6 - May 11th, 2024 at 10:21pm
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Thanks. Great to see a .50/70 RB still in action. That's a lot of meat!!
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Reply #7 - May 12th, 2024 at 7:59pm
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Congratulations Tom! 
Great story, and a nice buff too!
  

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Reply #8 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 12:34pm
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Neat hunt and great shooting !
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:57am
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I have shot two with the 50-70 on one of Turner's ranches in NM. The first was shot in the lungs at about 150yards with it running in a small circle of about 25 yards before stopping and then dropping. Bullet was found under the hide on the far side. The second shot a year later was shot at 200yds. There was a mis-communication between the guide and myself with him believing I was zero'd for 100yds. My actual zero was for 200. When I asked how far he said "100, hold center". Being a trainer sniper, I do what my observer says and held center. Fortunately my hold dropped the bullet direct into the spine. The Buff was knocked off his feet and blew over like a paper cup. Bullet was recovered from the spine. We watched his two companions try to get him to move using their horns, One actually lifted his rear end off of the ground deeply goring him in the process.

Both shot with 0.512 diameter bullets weighing 450gr.
  

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Reply #10 - Jul 8th, 2024 at 8:11pm
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Congrats all.  Not only are they hardy, but that is some of the finer eats you will sink a tooth into as well.
  
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Reply #11 - Jul 11th, 2024 at 3:21am
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RBKenn wrote on Jul 8th, 2024 at 8:11pm:
Congrats all.  Not only are they hardy, but that is some of the finer eats you will sink a tooth into as well.


I was working with a woman who had a boy the same age as mine. He was a terrible eater so they had a rule he had to try one bite of everything on his plate and eat enough of something that he was full. He especially did no like any sort of meat. She asked for some bison burger and cooked it that night. Her son ate his portion and asked for more. I gave her another pound with him repeating as per the night before.he thought perhaps he grew out of his aversion so bought some good quality burger and cooked it exactly the same way. He took one bite and asked "what do you do to this?"
  

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Reply #12 - Aug 5th, 2024 at 3:07pm
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I just hate to sound ignorant but it fits me sometimes. My Wife’s old aerospace boss waited two plus years for a Shiloh Sharps in 45-90 then next year went on a Buffalo hunt in SD, Nebraska,  somehere and took a young dry cow. But he told me after dropping the cow, paying a hand to help skin and dress it was taken to the farm where they processed it, his request into muscle groups. Then they charged him for the meat ? Charged by the pound. Is this standard on Buffalo hunts. You pay serious pesos for the hunt then charged for your animal ?

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Reply #13 - Aug 5th, 2024 at 6:09pm
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Doesn't seem unrealistic to me. I'm sure that you could have drug it to your station wagon and loaded it up to take home to your garage to butcher yourself, like you do every successful deer season.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 6th, 2024 at 2:49pm
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I just want to say that my post of yesterday sounds today, when I re-read it, to be derisive. That was not my intent. If my feelings about taking a Buffalo are anything it would be jealousy as that is a dream hunt. I’ve been on my back two weeks after spine surgery so maybe it was the drugs talking. I was only a bit confused when I was told that a hunter has to pay poundage price for their game. Sorry if my shot went wide.

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Reply #15 - Aug 6th, 2024 at 4:29pm
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'S OK with me, I was just responding in the way my foggy mind was seeing the situation from the aspect of a city dude standing next to half a ton of dead critter out in the middle of a few thousand square miles of nowhere. I suppose you could take a salt shaker with you and sit down to eat it right there, too. Bring a stout stick for roasting on and matches to light the buffalo chips. bon appetit!
  
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Reply #16 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 10:42am
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Nice job and story.
  
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