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TN Longhunter Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Location: Tennessee Joined: Jan 15^th, 2014	Remington #7s and their Daddy Apr 24^th, 2024 at 4:41pm	Print Post
	I have had the Army Rolling Block Pistol for 15+ years. Cut down .50 cal brass and made some ammo for it. I can see why it never caught on. But the surplus actions were put to good use 40 years later by using them to make some unique rifles. Only around 300 were made and I lucked into two of them. A .25/25 and a .22 LR. Both are a blast to shoot, and I was able to get brass for the .25 as well as dies.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15749 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #1 - Apr 24^th, 2024 at 5:02pm	Print Post
	The #7 Rolling Block rifles were based on the later Model 1871 pistols with their much nicer looking frames. I think the later pistols, and the #7 rifles are some of the most beautiful firearms Remington made back then!

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #2 - Apr 24^th, 2024 at 5:59pm	Print Post
	I concur with what Val said. Neat little guns. Congratulations on finding a couple nice #7’s. The 300 number seems to be arbitrary, I’ve seen numbers from 300 to 600, it would be nice if a number could be pinned down. Bob

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15749 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #3 - Apr 24^th, 2024 at 9:11pm	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Apr 24^th, 2024 at 5:59pm: I concur with what Val said. Neat little guns. Congratulations on finding a couple nice #7’s. The 300 number seems to be arbitrary, I’ve seen numbers from 300 to 600, it would be nice if a number could be pinned down. Bob I've always wondered about those numbers too? For a rifle with even only 600 made, it seems a lot survived as almost every large gun show I attend has at least one and up to 4 or 5 for sale. Seems they'd be much harder to find if the number was as low as 300-600 even. They do bring pretty good money whenever I do see one for sale!

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TN Longhunter Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Location: Tennessee Joined: Jan 15^th, 2014	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #4 - Apr 24^th, 2024 at 9:25pm	Print Post
	I have seen them for years at shows but only recently found these two for sale. The 300 number shows up in some sources with Landskron (Remington Rolling Block Pistols) states 350. Still a small number for a very unique rifle and for the time an expensive one.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15749 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #5 - Apr 24^th, 2024 at 10:58pm	Print Post
	Expensive when new, and still expensive! Langskron, Gyde, and Marcot all state 350 rifles in their books.

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #6 - Apr 25^th, 2024 at 12:42pm	Print Post
	Do any of them state a source? I always wonder if they are just repeating what has been seen elsewhere, from observed serial numbers or actual records. I don’t have those books, so maybe someone can clarify this for me. Bob

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15749 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #7 - Apr 25^th, 2024 at 9:26pm	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 12:42pm: Do any of them state a source? I always wonder if they are just repeating what has been seen elsewhere, from observed serial numbers or actual records. I don’t have those books, so maybe someone can clarify this for me. Bob I have all 3 books Bob, and I know all three guys are close and likely share the same source(s) but not sure where? I do know that Marcot and some higher up in the Remington Society got access years ago to Remington's historic records that for decades the company said didn't exist and they discovered all sorts of great records on old guns built that we all though didn't exist. They weren't allowed to copy anything, but they spent a couple weeks in the storeroom every year for many years. Not sure where the whole thing stands after the bankruptcy and new company now?

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #8 - Apr 26^th, 2024 at 11:00am	Print Post
	Vall, that’s good info. Since they had some access to the records, I would tend to believe their numbers then. Bob

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15749 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #9 - Apr 26^th, 2024 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Apr 26^th, 2024 at 11:00am: Vall, that’s good info. Since they had some access to the records, I would tend to believe their numbers then. Bob Not sure if they had access when Gyde/Marcot wrote his fine book on Remington .22 rifles was written in 2007, and certainly not when Jerry Landskron wrote the pistol book back in 1981. But certainly by the time Marcot did his book on Rolling Block Sporting rifles! I think some of the estimates are based on known serial numbers of existing guns, so accuracy may be close, but not exact?

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KWK Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 398 Location: USA Joined: Jul 12^th, 2004	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #10 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:07am	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Apr 24^th, 2024 at 5:02pm: ... the #7 rifles are some of the most beautiful firearms Remington made back then! Some of the most beautiful rifles anybody was making back then--or now.

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curdog Junior Member Offline Posts: 61 Joined: Feb 26^th, 2022	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #11 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 8:04am	Print Post
	You guys are killing me! Now I just have to make up one of these, for yet another project. Fortunately I have most of the parts rounded up. Nothing but a bunch of enablers....


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TN Longhunter Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Location: Tennessee Joined: Jan 15^th, 2014	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #12 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 11:13am	Print Post
	curdog wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 8:04am: You guys are killing me! Now I just have to make up one of these, for yet another project. Fortunately I have most of the parts rounded up. Nothing but a bunch of enablers.... We try! You are welcome.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15749 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #13 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 12:28pm	Print Post
	I figure I always need to have something on my wish list that's unobtainable, or I'll stop searching and hoping! It's those things I have wanted the longest that keep me excited about our hobby!

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #7s and their Daddy Reply #14 - Apr 27^th, 2024 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	curdog wrote on Apr 27^th, 2024 at 8:04am: You guys are killing me! Now I just have to make up one of these, for yet another project. Fortunately I have most of the parts rounded up. Nothing but a bunch of enablers.... You have parts for an original #7? Or castings? Bob

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