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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 317 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	.32-40 200 yard match rifle building Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 4:58pm	Print Post
	I posted the over on the Shiloh forum and thought I’d post it here also “ Hi guys, I’m thinking of rebarreling my .45-70 Browning BPCR to .32-40 WCF. This would be specifically for 200 yard bench shooting with black powder only, no duplex loads. The goal of consistent MOA at 200 and not the occasional “wallet group” , a tall order but possible I think. I’m 85 and my neck suffers from recoil, even my .40-65 is too much now. Before I get too far down this rabbit hole what would be the best brass and what’s it availability, or headstamped .32-40 in general? Regarding the barrel. Is there a “standard” bore and groove size? Any suggestions on bore/groove size? Bullets, don’t need one with the highest BC but I would think the schuetzen guys would have a good choice on bullets. Twist, it seems 1:16 is a number that comes up but I guess that’s a choice to be made on bullet shape and weight. I normally paper patch but with this setup I think I will try GG loading and no gas checks. Breach seating is not ruled out. I’ll have a bunch more questions I’m sure but thanks for the help.” Cheers Richard


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #1 - Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 5:55pm	Print Post
	Richard, BRC choked 32 barrel I have is 1-15. This one isn’t shooting yet but others say they do real well. Bob

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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 317 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #2 - Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	Hi Bob, BRC??? The .40-65 I built has a RKS stainless gain twist, choked barrel on it and it shoots very well even though I have not worked up a load for it. It’s chambered for PP bullets but the recoil is just too much for me to enjoy shooting it. I may part with it but it’s so pretty to look at I’m holding back lol. Cheers Richard


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irish66 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 533 Location: newbraunfels Joined: Apr 7^th, 2007	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #3 - Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 7:30pm	Print Post
	I have three borchardt rifle co, barrels, a 32 is one. All three shoot extremely well. My 32-40 is set for b.s. have managed so far third day out to shoot two ten shot groups at 100 yds 1/2 inch. Time to go to 200 The 32-40 is on a few mod j. My 25-35, and 444 marlin are on CPA’s Brc make very good barrels clay will make what ever you want.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #4 - Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 8:08pm	Print Post
	Irish covered the BRC, but just to confirm, we are talking about the same company, Borchardt Rifle Company. Bob

	Robert Warren
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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1240 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #5 - Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 8:58pm	Print Post
	I have built three guns using their barrels two 40 and one 30 cal. with a 22 CF one on order. Very good barrels. JMH


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shermo Participating Member Offline Posts: 35 Location: ticonderoga n y Joined: Jul 16^th, 2017	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #6 - Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 9:10pm	Print Post
	Gotta jump on the train, I also have 3 BRC barrels, 2 .22s and a 45, still working on the big one but the two rimfires are very good. Clay makes a excellent barrel!


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dave j Participating Member Offline Posts: 23 Joined: Jul 28^th, 2022	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #7 - Mar 22^nd, 2024 at 10:01pm	Print Post
	to Grand Slam.... there is great debate on twist, size, barrel maker etc. remember each barrel is a law unto itself. your quest is to find the winner. it seems 32 cal at about 200 grains is about as normal as you can find. if you can get one, a Ron Smith barrel would be hard to beat. he makes gain twist and conventional twist.lots of matches have been won with them. good luck on your journey


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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 317 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #8 - Mar 23^rd, 2024 at 12:01am	Print Post
	Thanks guys, I appreciate the help, also please let me know if any GOOD 32-40 brass shows up. Thanks again Richard.


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Mick B Oldtimer Offline Posts: 977 Location: 19 Ian Nicol St watson ACT aus Joined: Apr 11^th, 2013	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #9 - Mar 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55am	Print Post
	Just to throw a spanner into the works hears my take on the 32/40 as a BP cartridge. The problem with BP that in order to get good accuracy you have to control barrel fouling effectively, this entails cleaning between shots in some way. You can use damp patches followed by a dry patch, or perhaps with blow tubing between shots, 32 cal barrels do not lend themselves to either method all that well. If recoil is an issue for you the effect this can be reduced in a number of ways, firstly in the case of say a 40/65 or 40/60 Maynard use lighter bullets, say 350 gr not 400 gr, you are not trying to knock down metal targets at 500 m, just shooting holes in paper. Secondly, fit the rifle with a recoil pad, if a further reduction is required wear a shoulder recoil pad. Finally if you a having a special rifle built just for shooting at 200 yds off the bench, have it built to the maximum weight allowed which will further reduce felt recoil. If you are thinking of having something built that will shoot 1/2" at 100 yds and 1" at 200 with BP, on a regular, basis I wish you luck. Cheers. Mike.


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art_ruggiero Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1061 Location: CT Joined: Dec 14^th, 2008	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #10 - Mar 23^rd, 2024 at 8:28am	Print Post
	put a mercury recoil reducer in the butt i think the fits in the thru bolt hole and add wads to reduce powder charge and 300 grain bullet art


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11331 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #11 - Mar 23^rd, 2024 at 11:46am	Print Post
	.32BP BR. I would go with the 8.15X46R chamber. Have fired thousands of BP shots in the 8.15X46R and never lost a case. Never wore one out and never pulled one in half. On the other hand, BP in the 32-40 can be a real pain. One day at Butte MT my 32-40 Meacham pulled 17 out of 20 rounds in half before I finally had enough and quit.

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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2243 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #12 - Mar 23^rd, 2024 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	I used to shoot a fair bit of BP in 32-40, but using plain Goex powder. I don't think I ever ripped a case in half breech seating until I switched to Swiss 1.5 powder. For a long time I've just been shooting IMR-4227 but I keep thinking of giving BP another go, maybe trying duplex too. Chris.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11331 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #13 - Mar 23^rd, 2024 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Chris. I shot a 32-40 LW for a long time with BP. Worked great and seldom lost a case. Then there are the other times and other rifles....

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7142 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: .32-40 200 yard match rifle building Reply #14 - Mar 23^rd, 2024 at 12:40pm	Print Post
	I've pulled a few necks off of 32/40 cases but, only cases with a cannelure necks like the old John Wayne cases.

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