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smokeless loads 38/55
Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:33pm
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Just got my roller project done and this is what it is...
RKS gain twist barrel,#5 action,Treebone wood, MVA 10x A scope
looking for some starting load data for the saeco #571 300 gr bullet, starline long brass
powder on hand
AA2495
AA5744
Unique
3fg OE
I would try BP first but I need to find some .030 wads
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Re: smokeless loads 38/55
Reply #1 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:47pm
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Just use BP and then you will feel much better about yourself .
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Reply #2 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 7:09pm
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Agreed - I tried the smokeless route on a 40-65 Browning and was quite frustrated. Once I switched to black powder the rifle got happy and so did I. Really enjoy shooting it now
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 7:32pm
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Have gone the white powder route in my 40/65 Rolling Block 1874 Swede action . Out shot any of my BP groups which were not untidy,Brooks 2 dia mould ,27 gns 2207( H 4198)  one grain of Dacron filler, fixed load sub MOA 100 yds .Love the cleaning protocol. Cheers Mal in au.
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 7:49pm
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If I can find .030  wads local or on my side of the border...great I just bought a 95.00 USD item today and with exchange it came to $135.00 Canuck  so a bag of 1000 wads @ 20.00 plus shipping and exchange will run me prob 60.00
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 10:07pm
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Make your own wads, not at all hard.
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 11:02pm
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I used to have a Fred Cornell Wad punch in this caliber approx 20yrs ago and sold it with my last 38/55....lesson learned  now need to get another...
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 8:27am
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i have expanded a fired case  sharpened the mouth with a deburing tool cut the wads with a lite hammer   use cereal boxes for material  it will all work   art
  
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Reply #8 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 9:39am
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I get excellent results in my .38-55 using 4198 and a Hudson 315 bullet. My charge is a mild 23.0 grs. No fillers, wads, or anything else over powder.
  
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Reply #9 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 9:47am
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marlinguy wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 9:39am:
I get excellent results in my .38-55 using 4198 and a Hudson 315 bullet. My charge is a mild 23.0 grs. No fillers, wads, or anything else over powder.


I also love 4198 in the 38-55 with similar loads.No wads or fillers used as well.

  
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Reply #10 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 9:51am
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Alliant Reloader 7 works very well in 38-55.
AND it meters very well compared to the LONG stick 4198
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Reply #11 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 12:53pm
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beltfed wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 9:51am:
Alliant Reloader 7 works very well in 38-55.
AND it meters very well compared to the LONG stick 4198
beltfed/arnie


Belding and Mull measure is your friend with 4198.   
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 2:40pm
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I use my Harrell's Precision measure with 4198 and no problem.
  
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marlinguy wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 2:40pm:
I use my Harrell's Precision measure with 4198 and no problem.


That's just cheating to use a modern measure... Wink
  
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Re: smokeless loads 38/55
Reply #14 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 10:50pm
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I'd second reloader 7 or 4198.  Also, I shoot mid 20 grains with a 360 grain bullet, so Vall's load is a good place to start.

I wouldn't use any of the powders you listed that you have on hand.   There's a lot of disagreement about this statement I'm going to make.  I believe two of those powders are subject to detonation occasionally when used on loads like this; so I avoid their use.  Reloader 7 and 4198 have absolutely no history of detonations in this use that I've ever heard of, and have a lot less velocity variation in the .38-55.    

AA 2495 is to slow a powder in my opinion for a straight wall case with cast bullet, it will not burn clean until velocities and pressures are higher than you want.
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