How about posting the link?

joeb33050 wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 7:35am:

True, but that still does not preclude that this could become the law of the land if we just roll over and acquiesce.

You don’t need to write new laws and waste the time of getting them enacted into code, when you can simply change the definition of words or add and eliminate phrases in existing law.

The new proposal of redifining what a dealer is what is happening. The wording for private sales of personal collections seems to have been removed. There is specific wording that includes private sales on Internet forums are being targeted.

The proposal is 108 pages long and worth a read, if fo no other reason than it documents how the definition of “firearms dealer” has changed over the last 35 years.

To think single shot, reproductions and or antiques will not fall under many of the new definitions would be short sighted. Other rule and definition changes intended to prevent 80% AR 15 kits from being sold unlicensed will also effect the casting kits for Frank Wesson rifle.

Definitions are basically controlled by the Director of the ATF, a non elected office that changes on the whims of who is elected President. New laws do not need to be written to change how firearms are sold, only simple phrases like “for profit” need to be re-defined.

Link to what I believe to be the most current proposal.

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Unless there's been a change, the FFL rules stated, "Actively engaged in the sales of firearms".
That terminology is so vague that even an ATF agent couldn't explain it to me when I had my FFL license. He wanted me to surrender my license because I wasn't selling enough firearms to comply with that rule. When I asked what "actively engaged" meant, he said something like 6 firearms a month. I asked where that number was in the rules, and he said it didn't exist, but it's what the ATF arbitrarily chose as a minimum to adhere to the rules.
So what is the maximum you can sell before you are considered a dealer? Is it 5 guns, or any number of guns? I doubt this would hold up in court if challenged.

Dellet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 11:43am:


I see nothing on the first page that is specific as to numbers of arms sold, or anything that states exactly what "engaged" means. 
I see statements there about "predominantly to earn a profit", "principal objective of livelihood and profit", but nothing that states an exact number of firearms to meet a minimum set amount to be considered "engaged in the sale of firearms".
It appears that this new rule may even make it easier for an FFL holder to keep his license if he's selling only one gun, as long as that gun was sold at a profit, and was purchased for resale to make a profit. Nothing states his FFL business has to be his sole source of income, nor does it state he has to sell X number of firearms to be "engaged in the business".

Maybe it's time for me to reapply and get my FFL again, so I can buy one gun a year and sell it at a profit.

I have two tables at a local show in a couple weeks bought and paid for. I am still trying to help a lady dispose of her husbands guns. If I read it right nothing will be finalizes until around the end of November. There is a 90 day period where you can contact and voice your opinions. I have made a copy of the document and highlighted everything that pertains to my personal situation. If an ATF guy shows up (I hope he will be in uniform) I will explain what I am doing. If it isn't good enough then I guess I will go to jail. Hopefully enough people will raise hell about it they will make up some rules that specifically explain "in the business".


JMH

joeb33050 wrote on Oct 20^th, 2023 at 7:35am:

Nope, this is activism. There is no civics lesson that can explain how this would be conceived and tax dollars spent to push implementation. Yes, the sky is falling, slowly, but surely.