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Eddie Southgate Newbie Offline Posts: 5 Location: Alabama Joined: Jan 4^th, 2020	44 Stevens marked 25.20 Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:55am	Print Post
	Is this the 25-20 SS or 25-20 WCF ? Thinking about buying a rifle so marked.


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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 838 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #1 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 12:24pm	Print Post
	.25-20 single shot unless someone ran a .25-20 wcf reamer in the chamber.


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #2 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	And if they did rechamber it to .25-20 WCF, at least in my experience the rifle will more than likely only be good for "plinking". Bill Lawrence


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3758 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #3 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	If it still is, as it should be, 25-20 SS, and the barrel is pretty decent them it would be worth playing with. First though, locate some brass. If it doesn't come with some it will be a good bargaining point. You can load it just fine with 25-20 WCF dies and a #10 shellholder.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #4 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 7:09pm	Print Post
	Stevens never made a gun for the WCF round. To rechamber to the WCF round, the barrel has to be set back about 1/4 inch. This is detectable by looking at the distance from the receiver face to the rollstamp.

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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #5 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 9:00pm	Print Post
	Stevens never made a gun for the WCF round. I assume you mean they never cataloged the .25-20 WCF shell. But if a buyer was willing to pay for it, I seriously doubt that Stevens wouldn't oblige him. Bill Lawrence


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #6 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 10:47pm	Print Post
	I'd disagree, Bill. The WCF round was and is commonly loaded to much higher pressure and thus much higher bolt thrust than the old 44 can handle. I'd expect they'd have declined. They did try the Hornet in the '30s, but even the little Hornet "shot loose" in a hurry. Phil

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1586 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #7 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:00pm	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 7:09pm: Stevens never made a gun for the WCF round. To rechamber to the WCF round, the barrel has to be set back about 1/4 inch. This is detectable by looking at the distance from the receiver face to the rollstamp. well kinda....The 23 (Sporter) Bolt Actions but it really doesn't count as a Stevens.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #8 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:03pm	Print Post
	Touche. I should have limited it to the 44. They might have done it in the 44-1/2 safely.

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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1301 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #9 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:39pm	Print Post
	They might have done it in the 44-1/2 safely. Actually, I was thinking of rifles built on the 44-1/2 action, because according to my references the early black powder .25-20 WCF cartridges were factory loaded to about 20,000 psi, while the early smokeless rounds were rated at about 28,000 psi. So couldn't both have been safely handled by a 44-1/2? Bill Lawrence


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 4046 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #10 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:43pm	Print Post
	Certainly. The 44-1/2 would easily handle twice the bolt thrust of the 25-20 WCF. O.P. asked about the 44, and I put my blinders on when I asnwered.

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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 761 Location: Annapolis, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #11 - Aug 21^st, 2023 at 8:58am	Print Post
	Cbashooter wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:00pm: uscra112 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 7:09pm: Stevens never made a gun for the WCF round. To rechamber to the WCF round, the barrel has to be set back about 1/4 inch. This is detectable by looking at the distance from the receiver face to the rollstamp. well kinda....The 23 (Sporter) Bolt Actions but it really doesn't count as a Stevens. Kinda-sorta, but in actuality the 23-series of rifles were a Savage product. Even though Savage owned Stevens by then they never "badge engineered" that gun like they some other models.


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Eddie Southgate Newbie Offline Posts: 5 Location: Alabama Joined: Jan 4^th, 2020	Re: 44 Stevens marked 25.20 Reply #12 - Aug 21^st, 2023 at 11:34am	Print Post
	Guess I'm gonna skip this one. Looking down enough rabbit holes as it is. Thanks for the info.


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