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Reply #15 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 1:54pm
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Reply #16 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 3:21pm
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scharfe wrote on Aug 3rd, 2023 at 1:48pm:
Are these trigger groups interchangeable between a 44 and 44 1/2 ?


Short answer yes.   The tang assembly was designed for the three-digit version of the 44 somewhere around 1894, but back them was used only for set triggers.  Fast-forward to ~1902. When the 44-1/2 was being designed, they lifted it verbatim.  I'm surmising that this was necessary because the 44-1/2 receiver is a forging. They could forge one tang efficiently, but not both.  I've swapped a 44 DST assembly into a 44-1/2 frame, and vice versa, just to prove it to myself.

It's worth knowing that the assembly from a CPA 44-1/2 is not line-to-line compatible.  It fits in, but the tang  itself is enough different that it doesn't fit the wood of an original.  Pin diameters also differ.  I'm still possessed of a CPA pistol-grip DST assembly that I gave up on after finding this out.   
  

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Reply #17 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 4:55pm
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Thank all of you for the info.
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 6:03pm
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Single set trigger parts and parts list from Stevens catalog #54, c1914 reprint. 
The sst trigger plate or tang is basically the same as a 44 1/2 with a standard single trigger, with the difference being only an extra threaded hole for the knock off spring.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 6:20pm
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Y'know, I'd seen those drawings Jack sent me before, but they were marked-up such that I thought it was somebody's idea of how to create a single set trigger by modifying OEM parts.  

Turns out to be true, but it was Stevens themselves doing the modifying.

It was their Part #49, "Sear Spring" that I had to modify to make mine work properly.
  

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Reply #20 - Aug 4th, 2023 at 1:11pm
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I think you might like these drawing.
  

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Reply #21 - Aug 6th, 2023 at 3:44pm
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Looking like that 44 might go cheap.   Smiley

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Reply #22 - Aug 6th, 2023 at 10:56pm
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Some time ago I discussed the single-set trigger with Gail at CPA.  She was familiar with the Stevens single-set trigger although CPA has never offered the feature.  She understood that Stevens discontinued the single set due to problems with the flat spring.  Typically after a couple hundred shots or so the spring would take a "set" (weaken) and the single set would no longer work, but the rifle would still fire without the single-set feature.  Gail indicated the spring only worked within a narrow range of tension, to light & the trigger will not go into the set position.  She was not clear on what happens if the spring is too strong.

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Reply #23 - Aug 6th, 2023 at 11:08pm
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And the help keeps rolling in. Thanks
  
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Reply #24 - Aug 7th, 2023 at 12:27am
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There are two springs.  The long one is what they called the trigger spring in the plain trigger 44-1/2.  I can't see how that one could "take a set", since it deflects very little.  The short, dog-legged one in front could be a problem, maybe.  I could imagine that wear on the tip would change the adjustment, and severe wear might make it not work at all.  Would that happen in a few hundred cycles?  I doubt it.  Would it "take a set"?  I doubt that, too, unless it were made of inferior metal or not tempered properly.  Possible.   

Given that the 44-1/2 didn't survive the Westinghouse takeover, the option for the 44 would have died also, whether it worked or not.

Who bought the one on Gunbroker?  Not I.   
  

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Re: Stevens Model 44
Reply #25 - Aug 7th, 2023 at 12:50am
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Someone got a really good deal.
  
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