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A Remington Rolling Block no. 2 question
Jun 12th, 2023 at 7:51pm
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I'm looking at two RRB #2 Sporting Rifles with late forearms but one has U.S.A. in the trademark but the other does not.  Do any of you, more expert than I, know when this change occured?  The one with U.S.A. in the trademark line has a higher serial number. 
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Re: A Remington Rolling Block no. 2 question
Reply #1 - Jun 12th, 2023 at 8:17pm
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Of the four different stamped markings, only the 3rd done in 1870's-1886 didn't have USA in the marking. So I'd need the entire markings to say what era it could be.
The one without USA in the stamp was marked E. REMINGTON & SONS Others were REMININGTON'S or REMINGTON ARMS CO.
Where it's marked also designates a certain era, so need to know that also.
  

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Reply #2 - Jun 12th, 2023 at 9:56pm
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Thank you for your response; here's some additional info.  The earlier rifle, sn 216xx, is   marked "Remington Arms Co. Ilion N.Y." while the later one, sn 360xx, is marked "Remington Arms Co. Ilion, N.Y. U.S.A.".  Both trademarks are on the top flat of the barrel.  Both have the late fore arm with an ebony insert.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 13th, 2023 at 6:35am
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In my #2 rifle research, I've identified seven different barrel markings.  Is the stamping ahead of the rear sight?  Does it read toward the breech? Take a caliper and measure how tall the lettering is. Lastly, please post some clear photos of the stamp and rifle.


You may find this video I made about #2 rifles of interest.   
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Re: A Remington Rolling Block no. 2 question
Reply #4 - Jun 13th, 2023 at 10:56am
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From info I saw in John Gyde's book on Remington .22's it would appear both guns are post bankruptcy, with the one having no USA marking being probably around 1886-1888 and the other with USA being final production around 1889-1909. 
Steve may be able to pin it down closer for you.
  

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Reply #5 - Jun 13th, 2023 at 10:50pm
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Thanks, folks.  I'll gather more info and take a couple of images;  I'm new to this forum so please be patient.  Good stuff!
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 14th, 2023 at 4:52pm
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Excellent video, Mr. Blancard.  With respect to your questions,both rifles have the trademark stamping ahead of the front sight.  The stamping on the "216 rifle' reads toward the front sight rather than toward the breech.  The stamping on the "360 rifle" reads toward the breech.  As best as I can see, the lettering on the "216 rifle" measures 0.065 inches tall while the other measures 0.075 inches tall.  My images are evidently too big so I've got to do some more forum research before I can send them.  I appreciate your patience and...
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Reply #7 - Jun 14th, 2023 at 5:13pm
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Your photos can be shrunk in size using free online photo resizers or sometimes just by cropping them

SN 216XX  has what I classify as a type 5 barrel marking. This SN and marking is consistent with others I've recorded. I'd place this rifle in the very late 1880s to early 1890s.

SN 360XX has what I classify as a type 8 barrel marking. This SN and marking is consistent with others I've recorded. I'd place this rifle in the 1900 to 1905 period.
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Reply #8 - Jun 14th, 2023 at 5:22pm
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It looks like I will post one image at a time; for now.

The top rifle is the "216 rifle" and the bottom, the "360 rifle".  More images coming...
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 14th, 2023 at 5:26pm
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Another.  More coming.
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 14th, 2023 at 5:45pm
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Thank you for your very prompt response.  I'm going to post close-ups of the barrel markings just 'cause I'm stubborn and must practice to learn.  I am using my computer's resize function but maybe I've not resized them enough.  We'll see.

Thanks again for the benefit of your research; I do very much appreciate it.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 14th, 2023 at 5:49pm
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The last one.
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 14th, 2023 at 6:04pm
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Nice rifles. What are the chamberings?
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 14th, 2023 at 10:11pm
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The earlier one was .32RF; now .32-20WCF.  A poor exterior but reasonable bore; a hoot to shoot.  The later, marked "22", has about a 75-80% exterior but the bore is toast; I'm probably going to line & chamber it to .22 long rifle.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 15th, 2023 at 5:34am
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Relining brings new life to them. I have a relined .22, its a tack driver now. Enjoy!
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