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Reply #45 - May 16th, 2023 at 8:34pm
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That is a much larger action! I was thinking more along the lines of 25 krag or 219 zipper. The older i get the less i like recoil!
  
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Reply #46 - May 16th, 2023 at 9:21pm
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Jeff, 
From the measurements I took and compared to dimensions that Wal has in his book on the Webley it is considered a medium action.  I believe with the 1" or 1-1/16" threads it would handle a 470 NE.  Not an everyday gun but definitely comfortable when walking among things that consider us edible.
  

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Reply #47 - May 16th, 2023 at 9:36pm
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Now there ya' go GT... I had a set of .470 Nitro dies a while back... until a friend needed them for a double rifle of his. I know where a set is too Smiley
Wondering what the size of that breech block mortise is? Reminds me of the 1"x1" Borchardt mortise... my good friend was kind enough to share a 1" square broach with me for such.
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Reply #48 - May 16th, 2023 at 9:39pm
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Gil,
Squaring up a new block and make the mortice to fit may handle a Krag or a Zipper better.  There is a lot of meat behind the block on this and getting away from round and giving the block support like a HW would be positive.  Stress calculations would be something to look at.   You'd have a "rook" square block when you were done, haven't seen one of those before.  Keep us posted.  I may have to do one of those now...
On another note, the "straight on firing pin", the transfer bar, and flat spring from a Chevy are working well.  There's no shortage in positive ignition at least on the 22rf.
  

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Reply #49 - May 17th, 2023 at 9:18am
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G Gil.
The one thing I didn't include about the transfer bar modification was changes to the hammer.  The current hammer design struggled making contact with the transfer bar - it was designed to contact the end of the pin.  I added a little beef to the hammer - at the cocking point, throughout the body, and to the head.  The mill work was just free-hand up to scribed lines and finished with smoke and a file.  This gave the hammer a tiny bit more mass.
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Reply #50 - May 18th, 2023 at 9:04am
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I thought the hammer would reach the transfer bar so i'm glad you did all the experminting so i can jump in with both feet & be right on first try. Thanks
  
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Reply #51 - May 18th, 2023 at 11:03am
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I've thought a transfer bar ignition was a great solution for a number of single shots with angled firing pins.  Way to go!

How about a dual pin system like the TC Contender.  Switch barrel rifle from rimfire/center-fire by swapping the extractor and transfer bars(a different transfer bar for rim/center).   IDK, but it looks workable in my mind's eye 👁️
  

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Reply #52 - May 18th, 2023 at 11:32am
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I had considerable carnage getting to this point, I have the process on the run for the moment though.  I had looked at a fp like TC uses, and switch barrels, but it's more involved than I'm wanting to do, I'll just build another rifle.  I have a CPA and a couple barrels and breech blocks - I can count on one hand how often I've switched setups - just me I'm sure.
This is my rf build and up next is at least one cf build.  The T-slot method of pin retention needs a little refining yet and vent hole location determined.  I think it will end up with the pin in line with ones face and this is still a concern.  On the 22 there is still the rear of the action blocking this, not so sure with a CF.
  

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