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Feb 11th, 2023 at 3:29pm
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Has any one ever used a reamer to make a case length gauge out of hard wood.?

I realize the moisture content of the wood might 
have an effect on dimensions but thought it would be an interesting no cost experiment.

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Reply #1 - Feb 11th, 2023 at 4:15pm
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The moisture content will definitely affect the gauge. Metal would be much better. Temperature will affect that too but the metal of the gauge would be much more similar to the metal of the barrel as far as expansion and contraction than the wood.
But if just for fun, give it a try, just don't make serious decisions based upon the results.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 11th, 2023 at 5:01pm
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I think maybe an easy method would be to make it out of aluminum as the reamer will cut aluminum easily. Just need lots of cutting fluid to avoid the aluminum from sticking in the flutes of the reamer. And pull it out often during the process to clean.
There are some hardwoods that are harder than aluminum, but also affected by humidity still.
  

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Reply #3 - Feb 13th, 2023 at 10:45am
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My first thought was aluminum also. But being I have many pieces of barrel blanks it would be just as easy for me to make it from a piece of barrel. What caliber are you working with?
  

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Reply #4 - Feb 13th, 2023 at 12:22pm
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Nylon or delrin. Aluminum has a high coefficient of expansion.
  

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Reply #5 - Feb 13th, 2023 at 12:55pm
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ditto on the delrin, easy to work, makes a nice gage and relatively stable.   
When I cut a chamber for a 22rf I'll cut one at the same time from delrin to make a length testing gage - if and when I decide to sort ammo.  Haven't seen much benefit for the way I've been shooting lately though... Grin Grin
  

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Reply #6 - Feb 14th, 2023 at 2:32am
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Delrin, now that sounds promising.
thanks..

Ideally I want to take two blocks of material, mate them temporarily, (like a bullet mould) then ream down the center so that I can place a case in one half to visualize how long or short the brass is.

This particular reamer has a very gradual transition from the case mouth to the freebore and then again to the leade. So gradual that it is difficult to tell from just pushing the case in the chamber if a long case is   
being pushed beyond the case mouth to freebore transition.

I'm not trying reinvent the wheel as one well respected contributor mentioned in a prior thread on the subject, this is more a muse or matter of curiosity for me.[/media]

Rebel wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 12:22pm:
Nylon or delrin. Aluminum has a high coefficient of expansion.

  
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Reply #7 - Feb 14th, 2023 at 6:56am
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Delrin is OK, but nylon is significantly hygroscopic.  Delrin also cuts much nicer.  I've machined a goodly number of cleaning jags and bore guides from Delrin.   For your gage, start with black material.
  

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Reply #8 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:46pm
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CTE of Delrin is roughly 4x of aluminum. Whether it matters depends on what you're trying to do.

Setback gage for bottleneck cases, really doesn't matter, you're just looking for a difference before/after running it into the die.

Looking for seating depth, a small change in diameter makes a big difference at the shallow angle of a typical throat. 

My go to is 416 SS. Stable, wear resistant, and cuts like butter. A foot or two of 3/4" will last a long while.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 11:25pm
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clamping split pieces together and then milling using Delrin could easily result in a warped gauge.   

I'd lap two pieces of stainless or carbon steel together till they 100% mate, clamp them, drill holes for alignment pins, install the pins, and then drill/step drill out.  Then, chamber.   

I don't see this as being appreciably more difficult to accomplish in steel than in plastic or wood.  But, I see it as a lot more stable and accurate.
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 16th, 2023 at 12:37am
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Don't overthink this.  All he's trying to do is see where his brass length falls with respect to where the throat starts in this peculiar chamber, which he says transitions from the neck to the throat via a very shallow cone.  Objective being to set a trim length that keeps the brass mouth from getting into the constriction area without cutting it unnecessarily short.  The "gage" will likely be used once and then put aside. 
  

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Reply #11 - Feb 16th, 2023 at 10:13am
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USCRA112--Exactly...! --- Thank you.

But thanks to the other gentlemen for the input. Learning new approaches is both fun and humbling.

Unfortunately non of my education institutions had any sort of shop classes and therefore I have zero machining, mechanical experience or education..

Now if we are talking 2 X 4's and sheet-rock or other low tech construction techniques I can keep up.

Thanks again to everyone.
Bob

uscra112 wrote on Feb 16th, 2023 at 12:37am:
Don't overthink this.  All he's trying to do is see where his brass length falls with respect to where the throat starts in this peculiar chamber, which he says transitions from the neck to the throat via a very shallow cone.  Objective being to set a trim length that keeps the brass mouth from getting into the constriction area without cutting it unnecessarily short.  The "gage" will likely be used once and then put aside. 

  
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Reply #12 - Feb 16th, 2023 at 10:19am
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I ordered a few clear plastic rods of varying diameters from Professional Plastics to check homemade and rental chamber reamers with.  I drill and/or bore a pilot hole, and go slowly with the reamer, using WD-40 (yeah, I know) as the cutting lubricant.

Done properly, you can see the way the loaded round fits in the chamber without having to section it or needing X-ray vision.  I doubt if the difference in expansion coefficient or moisture content between plastic and barrel steel would make any difference that a shooter could determine.

It also picks up nicks or dull spots in the reamer as white circles in the otherwise clear “chamber.”
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 16th, 2023 at 10:23am
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Excellent.. Thanks.! -  
Did you get the acrylic or polycarbonate..?

Speaking with the rep he said that the acrylic is more likely to chip than the poly but the acrylic is clearer..?


Bent_Ramrod wrote on Feb 16th, 2023 at 10:19am:
I ordered a few clear plastic rods of varying diameters from Professional Plastics to check homemade and rental chamber reamers with.  I drill and/or bore a pilot hole, and go slowly with the reamer, using WD-40 (yeah, I know) as the cutting lubricant.

Done properly, you can see the way the loaded round fits in the chamber without having to section it or needing X-ray vision.  I doubt if the difference in expansion coefficient or moisture content between plastic and barrel steel would make any difference that a shooter could determine.

It also picks up nicks or dull spots in the reamer as white circles in the otherwise clear “chamber.”

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Reply #14 - Feb 16th, 2023 at 10:59am
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Not sure how well you will be able to see the case or loaded round in machined clear plastic unless you will be polishing the machined surfaces. 

Worth a try though.
  
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