I like it very much.  Ledball

That's my favorite hunting scope, a 1 3/4x5 Redfield Widefield. I have another one on my 9.3x74R. I had to give $50 for this one;-) Just finished loading up some 7x65R test rounds for the Heeren. 160 grain Speer Grand Slams and some 4350 and 4831.

Cool looking rifle

There are a couple on egun.de right now. I would have to get rid of the "Kaisergriff" on the second one if it were mine.

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Not a single shot but a really neat old Stutzen from 1941. I would be really interested to see the pencil-written serial number that should be in the forend. All of them I have seen seem to have been written by the same hand. I used to hunt with a vintage 1944 gun until a gentleman offered me so much I could not afford to keep it.

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oneatatime wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 1:32pm:


The 7X65 sold for 2,550 Euro, There were no bids on the 5.6

So unlike last year when the "Denver" Show was in Colorado Springs, this year it was in Greeley. I suppose we should just call it by its name, the Colorado Gun Collectors Show. There, that should do it (until it's in Cheyenne!). Anyway, as I said in another thread, the only thing I brought home (besides the memories of some fantastic guns, of course) was a very nice gift from an old friend. He knew about my Heeren from last year and he had a Heeren piece that he has been holding onto for a very long time hoping for a Heeren like mine from last year to show up. He decided to pass it on to me in the chance it would fit mine. It is a barrel with a forearm and a mounted Zeiss scope. I think there is a very good chance that it will work on my action. They were both proofed in the 1930s and all the superficial measurements I have taken seem to closely match. Of course the barrel will have to come off of mine for the real proof to happen. Oh by the way, it is chambered in 6.5x57R! I'll add some pictures here soon.

OK, here it is. Half round, full matted rib. A slightly shorter and lighter barrel than the 7mm one on the rifle. Dies (6.5x57 Hornady) and brass (7x57R Prvi) are on the way so I'm being optimistic that it will fit the action. The scope is adjusted for windage by driving the dovetails. It has a post and horizntal crosshair. I'm guessing about 2 1/2x. It was proofed in Suhl in August 1933 with a 123 grain bullet..

The Zeiss ZielKlein was the German equivalent of our Lyman Alaskan. It is apparently 2.25x and came out around 1930. To focus it, you slightly loosen the 2 screws on the eyepiece and just give it a few degrees turn until sharp and resnug the 2 screws. It is still clear as a bell after 90 years. It was used on the German sniper rifles in WWII and because of that brings a premium when it shows up on the market. I just remembered I have a German over-the-shoulder pigskin scope case that was made for a claw mounted scope and I checked the length and it is perfect and oblong in shape to clear the mounts. I won't need it until I have to take the scope off to see if the barrel will fit my action. Fingers crossed.

oneatatime wrote on Jan 30^th, 2023 at 4:37pm:


How smoothly does a Heeren cycle, say compared to a Ruger No.1 or a Hagn? I've never handled one, but I do admire the compact design.

Thanks for the description. The Hagn seems effortless, with no stages, if I can describe it so. The Ruger is low effort, but you feel a few stages, the last one with the lever going limp. The short throw on the Heeren suggests it will be stiff, but there appears to be a few variations in how the mainspring is done in the Heeren as made by various makers.

You mention opening it with the thumb. Oddly, I always imagined opening the action by flicking the wrist forward and having the trigger finger unlock and throw the action. Depending on how stiff is the mainspring, I can see doing it so could soon make the side of the finger sore.