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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1369 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	chamber casting find Jan 6^th, 2023 at 11:44am	Print Post
	Found this while chamber casting a .32W yesterday, the cerrosafe casting is the 4th one on this chamber, #1 and #3 had to be melted out because they would not drive out. I didn't believe #2. It looked like the 4th. The bullet is from this morning. I can't imagine the torture Bubba must had put this thing through. To me i looks like they went in with a hole saw. It has zig zag cuts all around the throat. I rigged up my digital microscope to look into the chamber, also not pretty

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18211 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #1 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 12:24pm	Print Post
	The front of the casting looks like a bullet stuck in it? Did you have the bore plugged with a bullet that stuck to the cerrosafe, or was that part of the chamber cast?

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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1369 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #2 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:32pm	Print Post
	The barrel was plugged with a cleaning patch prior to casting with cerrosafe. There wasn’t a bullet in the barrel. I drove the bullet up there to see what would happen, after the casting

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #3 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:53pm	Print Post
	What are your current plans ?

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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1124 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: chamber casting find Reply #4 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 5:52pm	Print Post
	That looks eerily similar to a .44-77 rolling block I bought a while back. After several chamber casts I finally determied that some knuckle dragging caveman had run a end mill part way into the chamber - ruined it. I hope that is not the case with yours, but it does look similar.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18211 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #5 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 5:59pm	Print Post
	If the rifling is good, then a great gunsmith can reline the chamber, and ream back to .32W. But if the rifling is also questionable it's likely a candidate for a liner, bore to larger cartridge, or new barrel.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #6 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 7:28pm	Print Post
	Or to just set the barrel back.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #7 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 7:39pm	Print Post
	What is it actually it on, I cannot see the means for an extractor / it's cut ?

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gnoahhh Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1093 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: chamber casting find Reply #8 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 10:05pm	Print Post
	You mess with this stuff and sooner or later you're bound to have a horror story. Mine's a M1903A1 Springfield i bought a few years ago. Beautiful bore, it should be a good shooter, sez I. Upon extracting the first fired case I saw the neck was partially expanded (maybe halfway up) to .35 caliber. It looked for all the world that somebody ran a 3/8" chucking reamer halfway into the neck area of the chamber. Holy Cow, sez I. Everything else checked out normally, and a few more shots showed that it was stunningly accurate. I waffled a bit, liked the way it shot, but I saw that screwy chamber every time I picked the gun up. It sports a new Criterion barrel now.


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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1369 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #9 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 10:40pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 7:39pm: What is it actually it on, I cannot see the means for an extractor / it's cut ? It's on a #3 Remington. The rifling is passable and from looking at it, the chamber looks fine. I would have never seen this without a chamber cast. No current plans. I've owned the gun nearly ten years and never shot it. I guess I should satisfy the question of how it shoots before doing any thing . ndnchf - that's exactly what it looks like, only smaller and not as clean. very caveman-ish

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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1124 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: chamber casting find Reply #10 - Jan 7^th, 2023 at 5:20am	Print Post
	It seems the knuckle dragging caveman gets around. To add insult to injury, my .44-77 barrel had been bobbed to 21" somewhere over its life - not very efficient for that big cartridge. I ended up having the rifle rebarreled with a new 32" Green Mountain barrel. The original bobbed and mutilated barrel stand in the gun cabinet.


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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1369 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #11 - Jan 7^th, 2023 at 9:56am	Print Post
	I wonder if the same guy did both barrels. No way to find out, but they sure look alike.

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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1124 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: chamber casting find Reply #12 - Jan 7^th, 2023 at 10:03am	Print Post
	oughtsix wrote on Jan 7^th, 2023 at 9:56am: I wonder if the same guy did both barrels. No way to find out, but they sure look alike. Yeah, its almost spooky. Before realizing my chamber was screwed up, I tried a few shots. They were difficult to extract.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18211 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #13 - Jan 7^th, 2023 at 11:57am	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 7:28pm: Or to just set the barrel back. Setting the barrel back is also an option, but that requires relocating the forearm attachment and if you're only setting it back enough to get a fresh chamber reamed it will be tough to drill and tap anew forearm hole so close to the old hole. So then you have to cut a dovetail in the barrel to delete the old hole and allow close mounting for a new hole. These projects always have further ramifications, and are rarely easy or cheap to fix. Hopefully his gun was inexpensive enough to be fixed and not be too deep in it.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18211 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: chamber casting find Reply #14 - Jan 7^th, 2023 at 11:58am	Print Post
	oughtsix wrote on Jan 7^th, 2023 at 9:56am: I wonder if the same guy did both barrels. No way to find out, but they sure look alike. That's amazing to see two chambers screwed up almost identically!

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