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BillOregon Full Member Offline Posts: 191 Location: Sweetwater, Texas Joined: Jul 28^th, 2006	The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:17am	Print Post
	One of the boys over on Paco's Leverguns forum mentioned that Remington has announced a new levergun cartridge for states requiring a straight-walled cartridge with case no longer than .180. It is based on the .30 WCF case blown out and trimmed and it has been named the .360 Buckhammer, with ballistics quoted as a 200-grain bullet at 2190 -- basically a straight-walled .35 Remington. I wisecracked that it was a slighly shortened version of the .351 Winchester Self-loading, with a rim. But then I got to thinking about it, and after consulting Cartridges of the World, I realized that it would fit almost exactly halfway between the .35-30 Maynard and the .35-40 Maynard. My sick gun-crank nature has me envisioning this thing loaded with duplexed black under a paper-patched lead bullet out of some sort of single-shot marked .35-35 Remington Maynard at the rear end of the barrel.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #1 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 11:49am	Print Post
	So is this a rebated rim like the .35 Rem. or a rimmed cartridge like the .35-30 based on blown out .30-30 cases shortened?

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1isenough Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Louisville, KY Joined: Dec 28^th, 2017	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #2 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 11:53am	Print Post
	Essentially you are describing a 35/30-30, with the neck shortened/trimmed by .20 to meet the state cartridge length requirement. I chambered two rifles in this caliber using a .357 liner (Handi Rifle and Martini Cadet) and both shoot very well. This article describes the cartridge: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #3 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 11:57am	Print Post
	1isenough wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 11:53am: Essentially you are describing a 35/30-30, with the neck shortened/trimmed by .20 to meet the state cartridge length requirement. I chambered two rifles in this caliber using a .357 liner (Handi Rifle and Martini Cadet) and both shoot very well. This article describes the cartridge: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I have a rifle here that was not reamed correctly and supposed to be a .35-40 Maynard. But chamber cast shows the neck is far too small for the .357" barrel groove. So I'm planning on reaming it for the .35-30(.30-30) also to make it usable. Just need to decide where to rent the reamer from.

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BillOregon Full Member Offline Posts: 191 Location: Sweetwater, Texas Joined: Jul 28^th, 2006	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #4 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 12:11pm	Print Post
	This is a straight-walled case. The .35-30 Model 94 I owned was a necked-up, but not blown out, .30-30. Craig Boddington introduces the cartridge in the February Guns and Ammo, which I quit subscribing to many years ago.


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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 797 Location: Annapolis, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #5 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 12:26pm	Print Post
	A tempest in a tea pot, IMO. The solution for the need for a medium capacity rimmed straight walled .35 deer hunting cartridge has been with us all along - the .357 Maximum. (.35-30 Maynard for all intents and purposes but with a stronger brass case.) Out of my 26" Martini barrel I easily reached 1900 fps with a cast 200 grain bullet, squarely in .35 Remington realm, with a healthy but not max charge of 1680. I could go faster but choose not to. As with the .350 Legend, yet another re-invention of the wheel. But, progress has to march on I suppose, as does corporate profits and wonderment of ill-informed new shooters.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1567 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #6 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 11:57am: 1isenough wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 11:53am: Essentially you are describing a 35/30-30, with the neck shortened/trimmed by .20 to meet the state cartridge length requirement. I chambered two rifles in this caliber using a .357 liner (Handi Rifle and Martini Cadet) and both shoot very well. This article describes the cartridge: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I have a rifle here that was not reamed correctly and supposed to be a .35-40 Maynard. But chamber cast shows the neck is far too small for the .357" barrel groove. So I'm planning on reaming it for the .35-30(.30-30) also to make it usable. Just need to decide where to rent the reamer from. this is a fired 32-40 in a new to me SS marked 9.1x51R looks like a 35-40 Maynard?


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BillOregon Full Member Offline Posts: 191 Location: Sweetwater, Texas Joined: Jul 28^th, 2006	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #7 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 12:45pm	Print Post
	I am not arguing for or against this new cartridge -- just pointing out that Remington might have unknowingly introduced the first new Schuetzen chambering in well over a century. I'll be looking forward to seeing the SAAMI chamber specs.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1567 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #8 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 1:52pm	Print Post
	Kind of a cool looking cartridge for what we do. I have a rifle in 350 legend and it's been a wonderful lead bullet cartridge.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #9 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Cbashooter wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 12:27pm: marlinguy wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 11:57am: this is a fired 32-40 in a new to me SS marked 9.1x51R looks like a 35-40 Maynard? That looks more like the .35-30 Wildcat than the Maynard. Looking at CotW the picture of the .35-30 Maynard shows a straight wall case as your picture on the right. The case to your left looks like the .35-30(.30-30) in this picture. Mine currently is a straight tapered case like the .32-40 or .38-55, but whoever reamed it left it short, and not full diameter at the neck. Fireformed cases measure .344" i.d. at the case neck, so much too small for the .357" groove barrel. We're going to rechamber to the .35-30 Wildcat and make it right. 4D carries the reamer and the gauge to check headspace.

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25cal Participating Member Offline Posts: 40 Joined: Nov 27^th, 2009	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #10 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:21pm	Print Post
	Vall-If the 35-40 you are referring to is the Darr 35-40, my Darr 35-40 has a similar chamber that I believe was designed as a breach seat only chamber. I bought a Weber breach seater and changed the case to match the chamber, and the narrow neck guides the bullet into alignment. The rifle shoots very well breach seated BTW.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1567 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #11 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	Val,the right case was just a 32-40 I fired in the 9.1x51R chamber. It's not fully formed but appears to be a straight taper to .35 caliber. Case on left was a 30-30 for comparison


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1567 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #12 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	BillOregon wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 12:45pm: I am not arguing for or against this new cartridge -- just pointing out that Remington might have unknowingly introduced the first new Schuetzen chambering in well over a century. I'll be looking forward to seeing the SAAMI chamber specs. I found this


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BillOregon Full Member Offline Posts: 191 Location: Sweetwater, Texas Joined: Jul 28^th, 2006	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #13 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 7:40pm	Print Post
	Thanks CBA. This print bears very little resemblance to the classic .35-30, "America's first wildcat," with an obvious shoulder.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: The well-known .35-35 Remington Maynard ... Reply #14 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:27pm	Print Post
	Cbashooter wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:29pm: Val,the right case was just a 32-40 I fired in the 9.1x51R chamber. It's not fully formed but appears to be a straight taper to .35 caliber. Case on left was a 30-30 for comparison My mistake! It appears the 9.1x51R is much like the .35-40 that Barry Darr and others chambered for from .32-40 brass, or formed down .38-55 brass. How old a cartridge is the 9.1x51R? I don't see this cartridge in any of my references?

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