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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1066 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Remington Split Breech & M1867 Navy Carbine Fun Reply #15 - May 31^st, 2024 at 11:36am	Print Post
	George - that sounds like a great project - keep us posted on your progress. I have several videos about shooting my .56-50 split breech carbine. In this one I mention the velocity using a loaded brown ramset with black powder load, and the same load using the ramset with powder emptied from it. Because of the higher velocity using the foaded ramset, I only use them emptied in this gun now. Steve (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1106 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: Remington Split Breech & M1867 Navy Carbine Fun Reply #16 - May 31^st, 2024 at 12:03pm	Print Post
	Thanks Steve, That velocity increase with the powder in the ramsets corresponds well with the work I dis with duplexing. Generally a good 100 fps increase in velocity. The original charge was 45 grains so I'll probably drop that down to about 30 and see where it ends up. I'll try the blanks first as I have a lot. The firing pin on the Peabody is pretty broad so hopefully no puncture problems witht he blanks. IIf I get punctures then I'll try the ramsets. If using the ramsets are is the "primer" hole the same as for the blanks? George


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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1066 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Remington Split Breech & M1867 Navy Carbine Fun Reply #17 - May 31^st, 2024 at 12:13pm	Print Post
	Yes, same size hole. I drill it with a #2 bit, then ream with a .224" chucking reamer. This makes a nice press fit for the blank.


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1106 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: Remington Split Breech & M1867 Navy Carbine Fun Reply #18 - May 31^st, 2024 at 1:20pm	Print Post
	Thanks Steve, I bought the drills uyesterday and the reamer is supposed to get here today or tomorrow. I couldn't find a tap[ered reamer so will have to work with a flat bottom one. Should be OK f I'm careful. No machine shop here, just a drill press, but I do have a 2 axis milling table for the drill press and it works pretty well. Using an end mill to trim the primer hole plugs sure beats doing it with a file. George


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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1066 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Remington Split Breech & M1867 Navy Carbine Fun Reply #19 - May 31^st, 2024 at 4:10pm	Print Post
	George - you may have seen these already, not sure. It is a two part video on how I converted .44 centerfire to reloadable rimfire. The principles are the same for .50 and other large bores. Part 1: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Part 2: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1106 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: Remington Split Breech & M1867 Navy Carbine Fun Reply #20 - May 31^st, 2024 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	Steve, Yes, I watched both of those u-tubes and that is what I am following. Reamer did arrive today but weather was way too nice to work in the shop so I went shooting. George


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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1103 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	odd ctgs Reply #21 - Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:17pm	Print Post
	STEVE: I enjoy your adventures with unusual arms and ctgs. I'm currently trying to make cartridges for an Allen-and-Wheelock revolver of ca. 1860. Picture a rimless rimfire cartridge. Only about 250 of these pistols were made before S&W made them stop, they having a patent that covered "cylinders bored through". It is a regular big 44 cal revolver, in quite good condition for its age, not having been fired much!! CHRIS RG Christensen


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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1066 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: odd ctgs Reply #22 - Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 5:55pm	Print Post
	rgchristensen wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:17pm: STEVE: I enjoy your adventures with unusual arms and ctgs. I'm currently trying to make cartridges for an Allen-and-Wheelock revolver of ca. 1860. Picture a rimless rimfire cartridge. Only about 250 of these pistols were made before S&W made them stop, they having a patent that covered "cylinders bored through". It is a regular big 44 cal revolver, in quite good condition for its age, not having been fired much!! CHRIS RG Christensen That's neat, please share photos with the group. Foesnt sound too hard to make.


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Crown-C Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 496 Location: St. Marys Kansas Joined: Apr 6^th, 2009	Re: odd ctgs Reply #23 - Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	rgchristensen wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:17pm: STEVE: I enjoy your adventures with unusual arms and ctgs. I'm currently trying to make cartridges for an Allen-and-Wheelock revolver of ca. 1860. Picture a rimless rimfire cartridge. Only about 250 of these pistols were made before S&W made them stop, they having a patent that covered "cylinders bored through". It is a regular big 44 cal revolver, in quite good condition for its age, not having been fired much!! CHRIS RG Christensen Chris, when you get it all figured out let me know! I’ve had this .44 caliber Allen-Wheelock revolver for 20 years and still waiting to load and shoot it! These lipfire cartridges are hard to find and I’ve never seen anyone make them.

	Richard Crown-C Ranch in the Flinthills NRA Life Member ASSRA Member # 10366 Member & Founders Society, Cody Firearms Museum Veteran
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