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Oct 1st, 2022 at 4:52pm
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Hi everyone, has anyone purchased a barrel from Ron Smith (RKS Inc) lately and shot it by chance?  The reason I ask is that I called the company last week a couple times and both time I got the recording saying the phone number was not in service, (maybe I was using an old number). I had heard that his son had taken over the business and I was just wondering if he was still producing barrels? I wanted to talk to discuss having him make a #2 or 3 weight HW barrel in 32-40 and wanted to find out his production lead time and recommended twists, etc. I have a nice Paul Jones 32cal mould in 198gr I wanted to use. regards
  
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Reply #1 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 6:20pm
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Yes Ron's son runs the business but they are also farmers who are busy taking off the crop this time of year, move their cows to winter pasture and then they do extensive hunting until the end of November. 
Sometimes difficult to get a hold of them this time of year. 
Might have to wait until December.

He is presently working on installing a .50-70 barrel and sights on a Sharps rifle for a friend of mine.

He would most likely recommend a 14:1 twist barrel for the 198 grain bullet (same set up I had for my first Schuetzen rifle on a Hoch action).
He makes straight twist or gain twist barrels.
No difference in accuracy of the barrel since both are choked which improves the accuracy.
I have had many RKS gain twist barrels because they have a longer life span.

Phone number I have is 403-631-2405 but I am not aware if it has been changed.

Target of a 205 grain PJ bullet from my second Schuetzen rifle, a 1885 single set trigger High Wall which also had a 14:1 twist barrel.
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Reply #2 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:55pm
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Thanks Dave, I appreciate the info as I didn't realize they also farmed. I am down in Iowa, middle of farm country so I fully understand the demand. The target you posted is excellent, I know several club members that also are shooting a 1-14" twist, however I used a twist calculator and it actually showed the correct twist for my bullet should be around 1-13.4. My PJ bullet is a little long, something 1.060 long so I was thinking of going to a 1-12. When I ran the numbers, if my bullet was at 1.000 or under that length a 1-14 is right on the money.  Thanks for your reply, PS that's the phone number I was using, so thanks for the confirmation.  Regards
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 10:25pm
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My newest rifle I use a 236 grain bullet with a 11.5:1 twist:

Caliber      0.321      Inches            
Bullet Weight      236      Grains            
Bullet Length      1.299      Inches            
Barrel Twist      11.5      Inches/turn            
muzzle velocity      1526      fps            
Temperature      50      degrees Fahrenheit (59 is standard)            
Pressure      29.92      inches of mercury (29.92 is standard)            
                       
Sg =      1.90                  

The 14:1 twist with the 198 grain bullet will give you a similar gyroscopic stability factor which has provided me with very good accuracy.

Caliber      0.321      Inches            
Bullet Weight      198      Grains            
Bullet Length      1.06      Inches            
Barrel Twist      14      Inches/turn            
muzzle velocity      1526      fps            
Temperature      50      degrees Fahrenheit (59 is standard)            
Pressure      29.92      inches of mercury (29.92 is standard)            
                       
Sg =      1.93      
           
I moved up to the heavier bullet and tighter twist since it is less sensitive to wind drift due to it's better kinetic energy.

  
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Reply #4 - Oct 2nd, 2022 at 12:27am
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Dave  that's some outstanding accuracy with that bullet, thanks for the info!
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 26th, 2022 at 11:55pm
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I have purchased several barrels from Ron over the last couple years.  His grandson is making them under the watchful eye of Ron.  I have 2 38-55 and a 22 RF barrel blank on route.  Over Christmas one will go in a Hepburn, the others on a Stevens 44 1/2.

Top notch barrels all around.
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2026 at 8:41pm
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Dave,

Hopefully you see this...

Question about your barrel.

Is that SS or Stainless Steel barrel and if so do you know if it is 416 Stainless
Also, if so how did you finish the barrel, hot blue (?) Parkerized..?(?)

That said I read in some places that Stainless can't be blued and others it says yes..!

If you don't mind please tell me about your cartridge (32 RKS.. ?)
Is that akin to the 32 Miller Short?

TIA

Bob

Schuetzendave wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 10:25pm:
My newest rifle I use a 236 grain bullet with a 11.5:1 twist:

Caliber      0.321      Inches            
Bullet Weight      236      Grains            
Bullet Length      1.299      Inches            
Barrel Twist      11.5      Inches/turn            
muzzle velocity      1526      fps            
Temperature      50      degrees Fahrenheit (59 is standard)            
Pressure      29.92      inches of mercury (29.92 is standard)            
                       
Sg =      1.90                  

The 14:1 twist with the 198 grain bullet will give you a similar gyroscopic stability factor which has provided me with very good accuracy.

Caliber      0.321      Inches            
Bullet Weight      198      Grains            
Bullet Length      1.06      Inches            
Barrel Twist      14      Inches/turn            
muzzle velocity      1526      fps            
Temperature      50      degrees Fahrenheit (59 is standard)            
Pressure      29.92      inches of mercury (29.92 is standard)            
                       
Sg =      1.93      
           
I moved up to the heavier bullet and tighter twist since it is less sensitive to wind drift due to it's better kinetic energy.


  
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Reply #7 - Feb 1st, 2026 at 11:31pm
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I have a 32 RKS being built.  Basically a 356 Max case tapered to 32 cal.  The 32 Millers, 32 CPA and 32 RKS are very similar and have shown great accuracy. My rifle will have a 14.5 twist BRC barrel.
  

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Reply #8 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 4:53am
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bpjack wrote on Feb 1st, 2026 at 11:31pm:
I have a 32 RKS being built.  Basically a 356 Max case tapered to 32 cal.  The 32 Millers, 32 CPA and 32 RKS are very similar and have shown great accuracy. My rifle will have a 14.5 twist BRC barrel.



Interesting post Jack. It seems a bit oddly placed and a little confusing. You are using a BRC barrel. Do you prefer BRC barrels over RKS barrels?

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Reply #9 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 7:39am
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My .32 RKS Miller DeHaas has a gain twist 24:1 to 11.5:1 twist RKS barrel that is stainless steel that is .321" between the grooves - not sure which alloy Ron uses. 
The barrel has a continuous precision taper of .0004" from the breech to the muzzle.

One of Ron's tricks: The barrel diameter is wider at the muzzle (1.00") than at the breech (.900") since tapering a barrel actually results in a minor opening of the bore the more material you take off, Doing the reverse to ensures your barrel remains well choked.

It is sanded on the  lathe after profiling and then bead blasted with glass beads.

Most barrels have six grooves.
Mine has eight - easier to breech seat .323 diameter bullets .002 wider than groove-to groove diameter into the bore.

The larger capacity of the .32 RKS case means it is less sensitive to powder level changes compared to the .32 Miller which means you have a wider range of velocities to choose from.

I shoot my .32 RKS at 1,526 fps.

Using the same case in my .25 RKS I have shot 100 rounds without cleaning at 1,826 fps (no gas checks) to test the quality of Alberta Schuetzen Lube at 110 F.
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Reply #10 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 9:31am
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Dave,

Thanks for that detail..!

I too am fortunate to have one of Ron's barrels,
I have not had it installed or profiled yet and it is not handy so I can't slug it and give you exact numbers although it is stamped RKS / .321 / SS / 21 X 11.5 at 28", I'm told this barrel was made by Ron and not the next generation although I'd have to believe Ron's son is every bit as exacting as his dad.

Before profiling mine is a straight tube at 1.310 (weight about 11 lbs)

Did you profile your barrel  or did Ron Do it? 

Regarding you comment:

"One of Ron's tricks: The barrel diameter is wider at the muzzle (1.00") than at the breech (.900") since tapering a barrel actually results in a minor opening of the bore the more material you take off,"

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A.I. Explanation of why..... Whoodda thunkit.!
"Yes, tapering a rifle barrel's exterior
can change the bore size, although it is not intended to in a properly manufactured or profiled barrel. 

The change in bore size is typically caused by the release of residual stresses left in the steel from the manufacturing process. 
Here is the breakdown of why this happens:

    Bore Enlargement: When metal is removed from the outside of a barrel, it relieves stress on the steel, which can cause the internal diameter (bore) to open up or become slightly larger."


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[quote author=06363D2030212F303B31342330550 link=1664657532/9#9 date=1770035981]My .32 RKS Miller DeHaas has a gain twist 24:1 to 11.5:1 twist RKS barrel that is stainless steel that is .321" between the grooves - not sure which alloy Ron uses. 
The barrel has a continuous precision taper of .0004" from the breech to the muzzle.

One of Ron's tricks: The barrel diameter is wider at the muzzle (1.00") than at the breech (.900") since tapering a barrel actually results in a minor opening of the bore the more material you take off, Doing the reverse to ensures your barrel remains well choked.

It is sanded on the  lathe after profiling and then bead blasted with glass beads.

Most barrels have six grooves.
Mine has eight - easier to breech seat .323 diameter bullets .002 wider than groove-to groove diameter into the bore.

The larger capacity of the .32 RKS case means it is less sensitive to powder level changes compared to the .32 Miller which means you have a wider range of velocities to choose from.

I shoot my .32 RKS at 1,526 fps.

Using the same case in my .25 RKS I have shot 1
  
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Reply #11 - Feb 2nd, 2026 at 9:53am
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It is noted that (some) barrel manufacturers-Krieger comes to mind-Cryo treat their raw barrels and then Cryo treat again
after boring, rifling the blank. This is done to minimize/reduce
any change in bore diameter or warping when contoured
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Reply #12 - Feb 3rd, 2026 at 7:59am
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Ron profiled the barrel using his cake mixing machine electronic guide system he developed to guide his lathe.

It is a .900" diameter barrel that does not convert to a 1.00" diameter barrel for the last three or four inches at the muzzle to provide the final choke.

His electronic guide provides the taper on the outside of the barrel from .900" to 1.00".

If Ron stamped it .321 then you do not need to measure it.
It will be precisely .321" between the groove-to-grooves.

I forgot to mention the .32 RKS case is 1.470" long and this larger case compared to the .32 Miller is less sensitive to powder load changes and provides a greater spread of velocities that can be used with that case.
We use the .357 Maximum case which also has a greater life expectancy compare to the .357 Magnums used for the original .32 Millers.
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Reply #13 - Feb 4th, 2026 at 5:01pm
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Thanks Dave...!

Great information, You have saved me a lot of consternation and indecision on which cartridge to select. 

RE: .32 RKS Dies...& Reamer..
Any suggestion for the source for both ..? 

Thanks in advance

Bob
 

I'm really looking forward to this build...
  
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Reply #14 - Feb 6th, 2026 at 1:11pm
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You trim the .357 Maximum cases to 1.470" long, anneal them (best to use Imperial Sizing Wax), and then taper them with a .223 Full Length sizing die and then retrim to 1.470" again.

Use .223 RCBS dies since the Lee dies do not compress the web enough.

Pacific Tool Reamer specifications.
  
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THANK YOU DAVE..!
  
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