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simple repair cost ,does this seem excessive?
Sep 8th, 2022 at 10:37pm
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gun at auction with repair receipt from unnamed gunsmith.

new firing pin,sear spring and dst knock off.

I may just be a cheapskate or lucky but I've not had to pay that rate.
is this the norm these days?
oh ya cleaning,  inspection and reassembly.
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Re: simple repair cost ,does this seem excessive?
Reply #1 - Sep 8th, 2022 at 11:24pm
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My first consideration when buying tools is to get the the quality I need (and want). 

My second consideration is whether they stand behind their product and how they act for the warranty. If they only refund money (or just part of it), I'm still holding a busted product and still need service. 

Then, I seek to buy as economically as I can.

As an example, I was told before I bought my first CPA 44 1/2 that CPA stood behind their rifles very well. Having a problem with extraction, I called and then returned my Benchrest stocked rifle. The rifle is now fixed with an explanation the extractor was too long (high). Good and timely service.
  

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CPA has also  been good to me and did a similar repair(as the above invoice)and troubleshooting on an original 44-1/2 with replacement parts for $125
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 8th, 2022 at 11:43pm
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Can’t say what’s normal or not, but that is one of the few companies whose work seems to add value instead of detract from a later sale. 

Possibly why the bill was included.
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 8th, 2022 at 11:46pm
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Dellet wrote on Sep 8th, 2022 at 11:43pm:
Can’t say what’s normal or not, but that is one of the few companies whose work seems to add value instead of detract from a later sale. 

Possibly why the bill was included.


for sure you can't argue with the reputation.there is a cost that goes with that I didn't think about 
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 8th, 2022 at 11:51pm
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Cbashooter wrote on Sep 8th, 2022 at 11:46pm:
Dellet wrote on Sep 8th, 2022 at 11:43pm:
Can’t say what’s normal or not, but that is one of the few companies whose work seems to add value instead of detract from a later sale. 

Possibly why the bill was included.


for sure you can't argue with the reputation.there is a cost that goes with that I didn't think about 


I know of a couple full on restorations that full cost was recouped at sale.

Repairs who knows.
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 12:02am
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Looking at the total cost it may seem high, but looking at the labor rate only it seems very fair

When considering the labor rate it's not just hours, but also tooling cost/wear and experience that is being charged for. And maybe some profit thrown in.  

A reputable gunsmith at a fair rate is true value.
  

I'm not a complete idiot, some of my parts are missing.
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Reply #7 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 12:07am
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I have seen a plumber's bill recently where the labor rate was $125/hr.   (They also charged her $265 for a water filter element that the mfgr. lists for $220, and told her she needs to have that element replaced every two weeks.)

It's only going to get worse, so spend what you got ASAP.
  

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Reply #8 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 12:20am
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1885s are a PITA to work on, compared to the Stevens.  (I own both, and the Winchester is a safe queen, despite needing its' finicky set trigger fettled.)  That alone might justify the high prices.
  

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Reply #9 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 7:22am
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I think there's something about we shooters as a group. We want to buy the firearm as cheap as we can and pay a gunsmith a pittance for his labor and expect him to live on ramen noodles all his life. I used to work at a small outdoor & firearms business in the 1980's. Customers would come in and ask all sorts of questions about the guns and archery equipment we had on display. After figuring out what they wanted, they'd go across the freeway and buy it from a big box store to save 15 bucks. A few days later, they'd be back in the store wanting us to fix it or have us mount sights they bought someplace else on the bows or  firearm. I'd always tell him to take it back to the Big Box store and have them do it.
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Reply #10 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 7:48am
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I am reminded by this of a quote in one of the Foxfire aerie of books about life in N Georgia, "if you need it buy it; if you can't buy it then⁸ make it. If you can't make it then do without it"
If the service is first rate and the finished product is first rate why wouldn't you want the provider to be able to survive and be there the next time you need him.
There are too few good gunsmith now because they couldn't make a decent living.
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 9:37am
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My only question would be if the work performed was what was requested? If there was no request for certain things to be done then maybe that could be debated. But if someone simply sent it to a gunsmith and said "fix it", then it's the gunsmith's discretion to do what it takes to make it right.
Prices don't look out of line to me, but I'd do all those things myself and not pay for the work.
  

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Reply #12 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 10:39am
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50target wrote on Sep 9th, 2022 at 7:48am:
There are too few good gunsmith now because they couldn't make a decent living.


Amen.  Much as I love doing the work, it never even crossed my mind to try to make a living at it.  Even retired, I wouldn't do it.   
  

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Reply #13 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 12:25pm
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Old-Win,

My first non-summer job was working at a camera store. We had the same problem with customers taking up our time to only order the camera mail order.  When they came back in with their film to be processed we were happy to charge them full price instead of the discount we gave those who bought the camera from us.  The best retort the owner made was when a ‘customer’ came in and after looking at a camera that was $200 asked us to match a $180 price that he was quoted at a competitor.  The owner said that he should buy it there and the customer replied that they were out of stock. My boss said that our price was $175 when we were out of stock!

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Reply #14 - Sep 9th, 2022 at 6:22pm
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I concur.  What's the saying:
Cheap
Fast
Done Right
Pick any two out of three.

I also note that the shop rate seems to be $125 hourly.  If you think that is a bit high, call an electrician sometime to make a house call.

I had a set of scope blocks put on a rifle recently.  It took four weeks, but the gun shop only charged me $40.  Drill four holes, to a thousandth tolerance...

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