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Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? (Read 728 times)

bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2762 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? Sep 5^th, 2022 at 4:10pm	Print Post
	I make sesters for original 1885 High Walls and now have a request for one to fit a Browning 45-70. I do not have access to one to see if mine would fit. How close are the breech block mortices on the two? Is the hammer spur clearance the same? Thanks Jack

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1572 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? Reply #1 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 4:17pm	Print Post
	I have one of yours in 38-55 at works in my original highwall but it drags in my Mirouku 38-55 and won't quite work. If I remember correctly it drags "deflector "that let's you change the ejection of the case. I'm not sure if the blockpowder cartridge rifles have this. I can send you pictures later on when I get home to show you.
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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 785 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? Reply #2 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 4:24pm	Print Post
	Jack...The 45-70 were closer to originals.The 38-55 I had had A different extractor/ejector that I did not like...bought it for a hunting rifle but sold it for that reason. Might not help much...but now you know the story...smile

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1572 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? Reply #3 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 5:33pm	Print Post
	my 45-70 and 38-55 had the same extractor and case deflector. Both were traditional hunters(with upper tangs) I'm thinking that the BPCR rifles were the ones that were different and didn't have the deflector.
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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3866 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? Reply #4 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 7:24pm	Print Post
	Yes, the Browning BPCR has no deflector.


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1897 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? Reply #5 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 8:33pm	Print Post
	oneatatime wrote on Sep 5^th, 2022 at 7:24pm: Yes, the Browning BPCR has no deflector. The same for the later Miroku Win. BPCRs - Both have extractors but no ejector & no deflector. Jack, if the rifle is not a BPCR model than it will have a deflector to possibly get in the way. Wayne

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1572 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? Reply #6 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 10:12pm	Print Post
	the two traditional hunters have 6 o'clock extractor/ejector and that's what the breech seater is hanging up on I just verified. I sold my two BPCR rifles and don't remember if the extractor was about 9 o'clock like originals though.


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2762 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? Reply #7 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	I will ask the requester to send me photos of his open action. Thanks for the replies Jack

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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1897 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Browning BPCR vs Original 1885 HW breach seater? Reply #8 - Sep 5^th, 2022 at 11:20pm	Print Post
	Cbashooter wrote on Sep 5^th, 2022 at 10:12pm: the two traditional hunters have 6 o'clock extractor/ejector and that's what the breech seater is hanging up on I just verified. I sold my two BPCR rifles and don't remember if the extractor was about 9 o'clock like originals though. The BPCR models have extractors at 6:00 o'clock as have all the Browning 1885, but as noted above there are no deflectors. The BPCRs don't have an ejector system under the forearm therefore the ejector is only an extractor in the BPCRs. The cases are only extracted about an inch or so to allow removal with thumb & finger. Wayne

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