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Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Jul 30th, 2022 at 2:38pm
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I’ve got a hankering to get back into .45-70 but I need to do it on a budget and being a rimfire junkie I want to get a .22 liner as well.

I know they’re used in Sharps actions and I’ve seen references to using them in a rolling block but I’ve never seen anything about using them in a break action.

Is there any reason they couldn’t be used in a break action?

What about another falling block like a Ruger No3?

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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2022 at 5:26pm
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I had the Crossno and found it accurate with a rather tight chamber that didn't like some brands if ammo.Picking it out with a screwdriver wasn't as bad a it seemed it would be.It was darn accurate with eley match and shot many inch groups at 100 yards.
It might be easier to use in a handi rifle actually.you might need to mess with the extractor though.
I used mine in a Hiwall.
  
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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #2 - Jul 30th, 2022 at 6:59pm
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I had the Crossno in a Pedersoli .45-120 and what a hoot that thing was!  I was really sad to have to let it go but adult choices, blah blah blah. Sad
  
That's why I want another conversion when I finally pick up a replacement after 15 years without but it looks like that will be something like a Contender or Henry single shot, maybe a No3 (unless I can find a screaming deal on a No1) or one of the import 1885s.

  

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Reply #3 - Jul 30th, 2022 at 8:58pm
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I'd take a Crossno over a Shaver, but with Dave gone you'll need to find one used if you can.
  

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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #4 - Jul 30th, 2022 at 9:18pm
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marlinguy wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 8:58pm:
I'd take a Crossno over a Shaver, but with Dave gone you'll need to find one used if you can.


I certainly could be wrong but I was under the impresssion that Dave's son is still making & selling the liners.  But I may be thinking of someone else.

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Reply #5 - Jul 30th, 2022 at 9:20pm
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Reply #6 - Jul 30th, 2022 at 10:36pm
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If I recall correctly, I thought Mike Bassett who took over Dave Crossno’s shop, was still making them. Could be wrong.
  

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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #7 - Jul 30th, 2022 at 11:15pm
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Shaver insert in a Browning .45-70. Targets are from last weeks match in Johnson City,TN. Target st left is with the Shaver insert. It will do this well day in and day out. The .22 match was 100 yds off the bench.
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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #8 - Jul 30th, 2022 at 11:43pm
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Crown-C wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 10:36pm:
If I recall correctly, I thought Mike Bassett who took over Dave Crossno’s shop, was still making them. Could be wrong.


I was thinking it was Dave's son but when you mentioned Mike Bassett's name it rang a bell.  Mike is the guy that continues to make the liners.  I understand that Mike was the guy making them & working for Dave.

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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #9 - Jul 31st, 2022 at 12:16am
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Iv'e been thinking about getting one of the Crossno liners for a couple of years now but have been worried about erosion of the bore due to the liner being shorter than the host barrel. As I would be putting a lot of rounds through it every range trip ie 300 to 500 rounds or am I worried about nothing a cleaning patch will cure should I deceide pull the liner after every range trip and clean it. Rather than leave it in its host barrel.
  
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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #10 - Jul 31st, 2022 at 8:09am
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marlinguy wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 8:58pm:
I'd take a Crossno over a Shaver, but with Dave gone you'll need to find one used if you can.


That's bad information,
Mike Bassett was Dave's lead employee, and is now running the business, and yes you can still get one from him, or you can get one from Shiloh, or Buffalo Arms.
  
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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #11 - Jul 31st, 2022 at 8:12am
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awp101 wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 2:38pm:
I’ve got a hankering to get back into .45-70 but I need to do it on a budget and being a rimfire junkie I want to get a .22 liner as well.

I know they’re used in Sharps actions and I’ve seen references to using them in a rolling block but I’ve never seen anything about using them in a break action.

Is there any reason they couldn’t be used in a break action?

What about another falling block like a Ruger No3?

Thanks!


The biggest thing you would have to be watchful of, would be not to open the action far enough that the ejector would kick the liner out, but that's a problem with Sharps, Rollers, and 1885's.
The fired 22 case will still need popped out with the screw driver supplied with the liner.
  
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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #12 - Jul 31st, 2022 at 9:55am
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Ranch13 wrote on Jul 31st, 2022 at 8:12am:

The biggest thing you would have to be watchful of, would be not to open the action far enough that the ejector would kick the liner out, but that's a problem with Sharps, Rollers, and 1885's.

That was my recollection from my time with the .45-120.  Drop the block just enough to get access to the empty case and pop it out with a small flathead.

It sounds like one should work just fine in a break action as long as I pay attention to the ejector.  IIRC the ejector can be disconnected on some of the Handi barrels so it might be possible on the Henry and TC as well.

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At least my train of though over the years has been consistent! Smiley

ssdave, I'm more than willing to build my own but I've never worked out how the liner and case are secured to each other.   I've never known if they're epoxied in place, threaded into the case head or what.
  

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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #13 - Jul 31st, 2022 at 11:14am
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Crown-C wrote on Jul 30th, 2022 at 10:36pm:
If I recall correctly, I thought Mike Bassett who took over Dave Crossno’s shop, was still making them. Could be wrong.


Mike did, but later Dave and Pam's kids wanted to sell the property (I heard) and Mike moved what things he bought to his property. 
If anyone is building the Crossno liners it likely is not Dave's son. But very well could be Mike Bassett.
  

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Re: Shaver or Crossno .22 liner in a break action?
Reply #14 - Sep 25th, 2022 at 1:47pm
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I own both liner systems. Both are accurate, and both work. Between the two, I'd say Lee Shaver's design is considerably more elegant than picking the fired empty out with a screwdriver.   

I have multiple Shaver units in a Ballard, a Shiloh Sharps, and a trapdoor Springfield. I put a Crossno in one gun to see what the fuss was about, but would get another Shaver before the Crossno  if I felt I needed another one. 

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