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Andover Arms Junior Member Offline Posts: 63 Joined: Dec 24^th, 2017	Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Jun 7^th, 2022 at 11:46am	Print Post
	Picked this up at auction a while back because it intrigued me. I have been unable to ID it and any help would be appreciated. Single shot, .44 RF, manual extractor, steel forearm, the falling block drops by cocking the hammer (IE trigger guard is not a lever), only markings are serial number on receiver, forearm, and barrel (19). It has a Frank Wesson look to me, but I have only ever seen the 2 "trigger" models made by Wesson. Thoughts?


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Andover Arms Junior Member Offline Posts: 63 Joined: Dec 24^th, 2017	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #1 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 11:47am	Print Post
	More Photos, since I only seem to be able to figure out how to attach 2 at a time.


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1345 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #2 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	The extractor reminds me of early Ballards and Wesson pocket pistols. But the action is certainly different. Are you implying that when you pull the trigger, the hammer moves forward as the block simultaneously rises, the latter arriving fully in position just before the hammer hits the firing pin? If so, it would seem that a little gunk and/or wear could make for dangerous in-your-face excitement. Bill Lawrence


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Andover Arms Junior Member Offline Posts: 63 Joined: Dec 24^th, 2017	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #3 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:51pm	Print Post
	Yes, the block lowers when the hammer is cocked and raises only when the trigger is pulled and the hammer travels forward. I agree, not saying I am going to shoot it and probably why it's not a well know rifle.


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Andover Arms Junior Member Offline Posts: 63 Joined: Dec 24^th, 2017	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #4 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:57pm	Print Post
	ssdave wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 1:49pm: Vaguely reminds me of Dexter Smith design style, and the overly complex alternative to do something covered by somebody else's patent would fit his mode of operation. Thanks for the lead, I'll dig into Dexter Smith, whom I have never heard of.


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ssrifles Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 297 Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2009	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #5 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	i have a gun made by theodore bartley of dresden ny, patent date is oct.5 1880. you pull the hammer back, the block lowers, load cartridge a 40-70.pull the trigger and the block rises to just before the hammer strikes it is locked up.the gun is near new and i know why,i wouldn't pull the trigger looking at the back side of a 40 calibre cartridge. tony<><


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11711 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #6 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 10:53pm	Print Post
	Where is your faith, Tony? Pull the trigger son!

	A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2007 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #7 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 12:41am	Print Post
	Perhaps pull the trigger on a primed case first faithful son! I have witnessed way to many "Watch This" with bad outcomes. A trial run or two at times is worthwhile.

	rkba2nd
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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1015 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #8 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 6:37am	Print Post
	Maybe, Danial Hug. Ledball


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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 703 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #9 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 12:57pm	Print Post
	Not a Daniel Hug.


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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1079 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #10 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 4:49pm	Print Post
	An interesting rifle, good luck with discivering its origins. .44 rimfire brass can be made from several different centerfire cases, depending on chamber dimensions. I'm made it from .41 magnum brass for an early #2 rolling block, and from .44-40 for an 1860s Ballard. Both are great fun to shoot.


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Andover Arms Junior Member Offline Posts: 63 Joined: Dec 24^th, 2017	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #11 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 5:52pm	Print Post
	I appreciate all the shoot, don't shoot opinions.....but does anyone have an idea who made it?


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Andover Arms Junior Member Offline Posts: 63 Joined: Dec 24^th, 2017	Re: Help Identifying Old Single Shot Rifle Reply #12 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	ledball wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 6:37am: Maybe, Danial Hug. Ledball I'll dig into it, thanks.


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