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LMP primers vs LP primers in BP loads
May 22nd, 2022 at 2:59am
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I have been using Fed 155 LMP primers in my 40-65 and they have been working fine, however I have heard that magnum primers may not be the way to go.  I have bought a pack of Fiocchi LP primers to try, has anyone else compared LMP vs LP using BP in fixed loads, and if so what were your results.
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Re: LMP primers vs LP primers in BP loads
Reply #1 - May 22nd, 2022 at 6:30pm
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The best primer is dependent on what powder you are using and the granulation of said powder.  My rifles generally like LP primers with Swiss BP.  Note! No all LP's are not created equal.

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Reply #2 - May 22nd, 2022 at 7:26pm
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I have used LP primers, mostly REM, in my 40-65, for ~ 14,000 rd.
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Reply #3 - May 22nd, 2022 at 7:39pm
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I tried the Fiocchi LP primers this morning and they seemed no better or worse than my usual Fed 155 LMP primers. When I mentioned to a friend shooting near me that I was trying LP primers Vs LMP he said that the only difference between LP and LMP was that the cups were slightly thicker and there was no difference in the compound inside them, is this correct ?.
Owing to the current powder shortage here I'm forced to use Wano 3P powder which my rifle does not like much compared to my usual load of Wanp 2P, until I get my hands on more 2P I wont know for sure either way.
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Reply #4 - May 22nd, 2022 at 8:56pm
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Mick B wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 7:39pm:
I tried the Fiocchi LP primers this morning and they seemed no better or worse than my usual Fed 155 LMP primers. When I mentioned to a friend shooting near me that I was trying LP primers Vs LMP he said that the only difference between LP and LMP was that the cups were slightly thicker and there was no difference in the compound inside them, is this correct ?
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No.  Magnum primers produce a stronger blast wave than standard when tested.  Presumably there is more of the explosive compound in the magnum primers.  Cup thickness is probably the same, but I haven't got time to sort that out; my sources are not that well organized.  

I have a very authoritative report on this subject but it's too long to post.  P/M me with your email addy and I'll copy it to you.
  

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Reply #5 - May 23rd, 2022 at 6:18am
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I have an old Guns and Ammo article on this from the 1980s. Lots of different types were tested and the results were inconclusive. Generally, the magnum primers had thicker cups, but not always. Some brands  of standard primers gave more brissance than other brands magnums.
I haven't sen the article for many years, but I'll try to find it.
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Reply #6 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:22am
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I wouldn't know about the cup thickness or the amount of priming compound in large rifle vs large rifle magnum primers.   The one thing I have seen repeatedly is that, with black powder cartridges, the muzzle velocity is lower when using the magnum primers.   It was certainly a surprise to me when I started looking at the chronograph data.

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Re: LMP primers vs LP primers in BP loads
Reply #7 - May 23rd, 2022 at 1:19pm
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Cup thicknesses. Some magnums are, some aren't.

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Reply #8 - May 23rd, 2022 at 2:04pm
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Reply #9 - May 23rd, 2022 at 2:53pm
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Not knowing if you were actually able to open the link I posted but is pretty clear primers are not the same and at times the none magnum primers can be hotter than the magnum primers themselves. 
Also and unfortunately German Salazar who provided these photos had a more extensive list of these types of photos. That pretty much covered all of the current primers both large and small and all the varieties available as well.
Again unfortunately he took all of his photos and his results off his Web. Site because he had decided to write a Book. He was also a very avid and a top competitor who unfortunately decided to no longer give his knowledge and extensive testing results away freely anymore.
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Re: LMP primers vs LP primers in BP loads
Reply #10 - May 23rd, 2022 at 6:43pm
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