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.38-55 and White Tail
Feb 27th, 2022 at 6:08pm
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I came into a Browning High Wall in .38-55 as the Sharps .45-70 has became a little hard on my 76 year old body.  I have been able to get 3" at 200 yards on a good day using a 336 gr custom bullet in front of both 1 1/2 and 2 Swiss.  I plan on using it for deer in Indiana and Ohio.  Is the 336 gr lead bullet ok for deer or should I look at a different bullet.
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 27th, 2022 at 7:04pm
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I would probably ask the deer - just after I skinned it out;-) Just make sure there was not another one standing behind it when I shot.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 28th, 2022 at 1:40am
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336 might be okay for White tail but here in Idaho we have large Mule deer. A 336 grain bullet out of a 38-55 might just bounce off. Might knock the wind out of one and then you could tie it to the back of the Jeep and run it home on all fours. Let the kids play with it. Fun.
  

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Reply #3 - Feb 28th, 2022 at 9:13am
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Exactly, the same reason the magnums are required for humane harvesting. Who knows the number of wounded animals the weakly 30-06 has maimed.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 28th, 2022 at 2:18pm
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Probably more than one would think, but due more to the user than the cartridge.
  

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Reply #5 - Feb 28th, 2022 at 5:21pm
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A friend of mine uses a 38-55 on deer. Told me he uses a Lyman 250 grain flat nose bullet. Told me it drops big mulies in their tracks. He uses some sort of modern Thompson Center rifle.  He told me he thought the flat nose was what made it such a good killer. 
So your 336 grain bullet should be fine. With a flat nose.
  

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Reply #6 - Feb 28th, 2022 at 7:27pm
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Most game are really not that hard to Kill. When I was Hunting in Colorado there was an American Cherokee Indian named Pete who managed a ranch that he would let us hunt on and at no charge to us. He shot Deer, Elk, Bear and who knows what else with just his 243 and he swore by its instant killing power capabilities. But he also knew where to shoot such game at without any suffering on the animals behalf and a true American Marksman. He actually had no use for those from California who shot those various magnums who did not have those same skills for those types of animals types not have to suffer. Or more typically to just be wounded and then to not be found and they were just not welcomed to hunt on that ranch.
  

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Reply #7 - Feb 28th, 2022 at 10:32pm
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It's been a while back, but I stuck a picture of a young cow elk taken with an antique 38-55 on the hunting forum. The velocity was very modest with a 250gr. cast bullet. About two weeks apart, the same setup took an okay mulie. 

The deer was a couple hour recovery, but had only run less than a hundred yards. We didn't realize it got carried a couple or three hundred yards down river, that we thought it crossed. The elk did a thirtyish yard stumble around and fell over. 

No magical power, just try for a good hit. My guess with the 336gr is what one of the earlier thoughts was, it'll probably zip right through and the deer may not look hit. Stick another one in the chamber and give it another good shot. Best of luck, should have some time to practice.
  
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Reply #8 - Feb 28th, 2022 at 11:02pm
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I harvested a mule deer doe in Wyoming a few years back with a 38-55.  I was hunting with a Model 94 but using 255 grain jacketed bullets.  The shot was broadside at 100 yards give or take and the deer made it 10 yards at most.  I think if your bullet has a large flat meplat that the deer will not go far after a complete pass through.  I also killed a doe with my 38-56 Rolling Block the next year at about 80 yards.  I was shooting a Speer 235 gr jacketed bullet and the deer dropped on impact as it was trotting up the hill straight away from me and I hit it in the back.  The 38 caliber rifles kick so much less that I have no intention of going back to a 45-70!  Have fun.  Tom
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 1st, 2022 at 7:15pm
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Looks like I will go to the 255 gr RNFP as the 336 gr is a RN.  It rings steel to 600 yards most of the time and some times out to 1000 yards with a lot of sighters.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 1st, 2022 at 8:40pm
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What kind of rifle, Pee Wee?
  

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Reply #11 - Mar 1st, 2022 at 10:42pm
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I am not PeeWee, but he did note in the opening salvo that it is a Browning highwall.
  

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Reply #12 - Mar 3rd, 2022 at 7:52am
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Thanks.  I'm slippin. 3 inch groups at 200 is perty good.
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 31st, 2022 at 8:26am
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Browning is not as good with 255 gr RNFP as the 336 gr RN.  Groups are running 4.5"-6" with the 255gr at 200 yards but a 100 they hit within an inch  Angry of where I aim so are usable.

  
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