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Nov 20th, 2021 at 4:41pm
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Guys    Does anyone have or know of some one who has correspondence about the Rowland-Pope Ballard rifle whether between Rowland and Pope or individually. I have the books by Kelver and Ray Smith.   Thanks for any info.
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 20th, 2021 at 5:21pm
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If you have access to John Dutcher's book on Ballard rifles, he has quite a bit of information in his chapter on custom makers. Your local library may have a copy. You might also post a want ad here for a copy, but being out of print, they bring a fair amount. Well worth it none the less.
  

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Reply #2 - Nov 20th, 2021 at 7:32pm
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A SET OF THE BOOKS WAS JUST POSTED IN THE FOR SALE SECTION
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 21st, 2021 at 9:09am
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Thanks Fellows   I have Dutcher's book and have talked to him and Ray Day's daughter, but understand there is more out there.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 21st, 2021 at 2:30pm
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Your welcome. There may be more out there from Pope's side, but  doubt there is much more from Rowland's, as Mr. Dutcher has amassed a considerable collection of information on Rowland. I would have suggested that you contact John, but would not do so until I asked him. You didn't mention what information you had, or it's source. You might consider sharing what more you are able to collect, and good luck in your quest.
  

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Reply #5 - Nov 21st, 2021 at 9:11pm
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The 1971 Silver Anniversary Edition of the Gun Digest has a significant article titled 
George Schoyen  Riflemaker. But it goes deeply into Rowland and Pope and is worth reading. Page 65 George Schoyen Riflemaker. A note, Rowland once commented that he thought Schoyen barrels were better than Popes. But he shot the .725 diameter group with a Pope Rifle. HTH FITZ OLD TUCK Smiley
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 21st, 2021 at 10:30pm
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This is a photo from Ray Day's auction, which was largely Rowland's stuff;
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 21st, 2021 at 10:39pm
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Schutzenbob wrote on Nov 21st, 2021 at 10:30pm:
This is a photo from Ray Day's auction, which was largely Rowland's stuff;


Every time I see that picture I get weak in the knees! What a great piece of history!
  

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Reply #8 - Nov 21st, 2021 at 11:02pm
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I'm too old for Farrah Fawcett.  Can someone make a poster of that Ray Day picture so I can hang that on my bedroom wall?

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Reply #9 - Nov 21st, 2021 at 11:15pm
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The article Old Tuck mentions was also penned by John Dutcher. Much of it is also included in his book. It might also be noted that Mr. Dutcher assisted with the cataloging of Mr. Day's collection for auction, denoting his knowledge. Keep digging, and you may find the information you seek.
  

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Reply #10 - Nov 21st, 2021 at 11:25pm
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Mr. TipUp  If I may be so bold, if it was Farrah Fawcett you hung on your wall when young you are indeed too old now, and better suited to a framed photograph of Rowland's record setting rifle. It happens to us all eventually, some at 70, others at 100, or some 
while chasing angels to cover.
  

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Actually, I was middle-aged when Fawcett was in her prime.  So a Rowlad-related poster is indeed where I'm at now.

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Reply #12 - Nov 22nd, 2021 at 7:27pm
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Take comfort, you are certainly not alone!
  

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Reply #13 - Nov 23rd, 2021 at 12:10pm
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I don't recall for sure where I read it, but there was a newspaper interview done with Rowland where he talked about his record group, and was asked about his preference of barrels? He said something to the effect that he occasionally had to send a barrel back to Pope if it didn't shoot as well as he required. But added that he'd never had a Schoyen barrel that needed to go back to Schoyen to be reworked. 
I believe John Dutcher said Rowland was very fond of Schoyen, and his barrel work. Hope I'm not misquoting him!
  

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Reply #14 - Nov 23rd, 2021 at 12:40pm
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I have a CW Roland hanging on my wall and here is where you can also get the same one from Randy Wright.

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