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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Nov 9^th, 2021 at 7:30pm	Print Post
	Look at this odd radius rim area. Also the darn thing barely extracts a round.Eley sticks in the chamber. Only cci standard seems to work ok. a fingernail is needed to extract.i took it apart and all parts seem to be working as they should? Is it just the way these work. My BSA International rifles(click and fling them out) and model 12 rifles extract wonderful.


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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2282 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #1 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 8:42pm	Print Post
	cbashooter, It looks similar to a Winder Musket's kicking extractor, is there a place in there for a spring of some kind? PS Nice Rifle!


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #2 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 8:57pm	Print Post
	Schutzenbob wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 8:42pm: cbashooter, It looks similar to a Winder Musket's kicking extractor, is there a place in there for a spring of some kind? PS Nice Rifle! Spring under the extractor.the block pushes on it for the extraction force. Here is a round in the chamber .Notice the gap on the lower part.the case is flowing into that and comes out at an angle and that's where the brass flows.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #3 - Nov 10^th, 2021 at 2:39pm	Print Post
	Found out it's made by Hämmerli & Hausch


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bluesman Full Member Offline Posts: 193 Location: Paradise, California Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #4 - Nov 10^th, 2021 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	What a beautiful rifle...Not overly ornate, very nice.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #5 - Nov 10^th, 2021 at 3:52pm	Print Post
	Not really sure what it is that you are trying to point out?

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bluesman Full Member Offline Posts: 193 Location: Paradise, California Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #6 - Nov 10^th, 2021 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	I just like the design, not too much needless decoration like many of the Swiss rifles we see, keep it simple I guess.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #7 - Nov 10^th, 2021 at 8:21pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Nov 10^th, 2021 at 3:52pm: Not really sure what it is that you are trying to point out? See deep recess radius.Base flows into extractor recess on bottom causing many cases to swell a bit and stick.. better picture attached.
	« Last Edit: Nov 10^th, 2021 at 8:27pm by Cbashooter »

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12351 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #8 - Nov 10^th, 2021 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	Odd shaped rim recess. Looks tapered and to deep. Parkenfarker?

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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1403 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #9 - Nov 11^th, 2021 at 4:57am	Print Post
	An attempt to aid chambering the round as it moves off the breech block trough? Bill Lawrence


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #10 - Nov 11^th, 2021 at 5:33am	Print Post
	MrTipUp wrote on Nov 11^th, 2021 at 4:57am: An attempt to aid chambering the round as it moves off the breech block trough? Bill Lawrence Kind of what it appears to be I think.its very strange.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #11 - Nov 11^th, 2021 at 9:10am	Print Post
	Additional pictures helped allot. It is abit strange and as Joe says maybe abit to deep? Doesn't appear to have much back bevel if any. So it does not pinch the case as the back edge grows in height as it rotates back. Does it leave such a mark on an extracted case. A blackened case might also help to see such a mark and just another hopefully helpful thought.

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #12 - Nov 11^th, 2021 at 2:27pm	Print Post
	About 1 in 20 cci standard will separate.they do extract though. Eley sticks in chamber 100% of the time. Look at tje fired cases.the rims tilt and case a bit out if shape .
	« Last Edit: Nov 11^th, 2021 at 5:32pm by Cbashooter »

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12351 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #13 - Nov 11^th, 2021 at 6:19pm	Print Post
	I suspect Mr Parkenfarker has fadiddled with that rifle. There is a German rifle in Munich with the same problem. Herr Parkenfarker?

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange Swiss Martini .22 chamber Reply #14 - Nov 11^th, 2021 at 8:26pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Nov 11^th, 2021 at 6:19pm: I suspect Mr Parkenfarker has fadiddled with that rifle. There is a German rifle in Munich with the same problem. Herr Parkenfarker? It bums me out because it's quite accurate Being that the block /firing pin is able to flip to CF I may just punch it out to 5.6x35R Vierling Or maybe order some RCC 22 reloadable cases as they are thicker and may hold up. I have a 3 cavity Brooks heel mold for the .22 bullet.


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