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ISS Oldtimer Offline Posts: 570 Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #15 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 6:34pm	Print Post
	Don't you make 44-77 out of 405 Winchester brass?


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CptCurl Full Member Offline Posts: 210 Location: Botetourt County, Virginia Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2017	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #16 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 6:23pm	Print Post
	I recently bought a Mauser 71/84. I don't think it ever was issued. It looks close to brand new and has a perfect bore. I hope to shoot that baby this weekend. No way would I modify it. Curly


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4470 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #17 - Oct 29^th, 2021 at 12:15am	Print Post
	Curly, I had a beauty like that back in the 1960's. The trick was getting all the factory cosmoline out of it. It worked so slick. It was my most expensive rifle back then at $19.95;-) I shot sealed packs of GI ammo in it packed in 1885. They cost like $1.65 a box and all worked!


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #18 - Oct 29^th, 2021 at 12:53am	Print Post
	CptCurl wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 6:23pm: I recently bought a Mauser 71/84. I don't think it ever was issued. It looks close to brand new and has a perfect bore. I hope to shoot that baby this weekend. No way would I modify it. Curly My 71/84 also has a mint bore, but the wood has been sanded. I've never fired it. I'd love to know the actual provenance of 71/84s like this. The only plausible legend I've read is that they were found un-issued in a German warehouse after WW2, and a large lot was bought and shipped to Canada. From there some obviously trickled across the border to the USA. It certainly seems that they are not all that scarce, although their value has certainly increased well above the inflation rate. Producing the correct swaged, patched bullets for it is a project that's been on the back burner for about twenty years.
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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 823 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #19 - Oct 30^th, 2021 at 2:27pm	Print Post
	According to an article written by a guy named Howard Reed in Handloader (Jan-Feb 1970), the rifles were found in arsenals in Quito and Quayaquil, Peru in 1957. 4500 of them were purchased and brought into the US by Robert Penny out of SoCal. Average selling price at the time was $25. There's an excellent article on them in Jun-Jul 2002 Handloader by Ross Seyfried. I have an 1871 and at one time had a 71/84. They are said to have been the finest black powder rifles ever made.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #20 - Oct 30^th, 2021 at 3:04pm	Print Post
	'Course both stories could be true. They were sufficiently common in Canada that CIL produced a smokeless load for them. Either way, they are a mighty fine blackpowder rifle. Compare to what the US was producing in 1871.

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Merkava Full Member Offline Posts: 112 Joined: Oct 14^th, 2021	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #21 - Oct 30^th, 2021 at 3:23pm	Print Post
	Some enterprising CNC Guru should produce a bolt head for the .50 US Govt. Then you would have a real genuine Tactical Black powder bolt gun.

	It's not a good idea to start a fight with an old man. He can't run and he can't fight any more. But there is one thing he will do. He will shoot you. " John Steinbeck"
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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 823 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #22 - Oct 30^th, 2021 at 3:28pm	Print Post
	Yes, the old Dominion stuff. I can't recall ever seeing any US made 43 Mauser.


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1403 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #23 - Oct 30^th, 2021 at 3:45pm	Print Post
	If I remember correctly, Remington-UMC loaded 11 mm (.43) Mauser cartridges, 20 round boxes of which used to be relatively plentiful. Bill Lawrence


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #24 - Oct 30^th, 2021 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	Nor can I, and I've had an eye out for lo these 20 years. At one point RCBS had some proper brass, though. I have some tucked away. A bolt head would be an easier proposition in today's world.

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Merkava Full Member Offline Posts: 112 Joined: Oct 14^th, 2021	Re: 1871 Mauser, Single Shot, .33 Winchester, Reply #25 - Oct 30^th, 2021 at 4:11pm	Print Post
	I have a bolt head for the 1871 if someone out there wishes to use it as a pattern to produce CNC bolt heads. .50 US Govt would be a really spiffy "old guy" sit in the blind all day gun Any one up to it ???? P.S. I turn handles and wheels, levers and switches. No G code in my DNA.

	It's not a good idea to start a fight with an old man. He can't run and he can't fight any more. But there is one thing he will do. He will shoot you. " John Steinbeck"
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