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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 352 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	Double set triggers Winchester Oct 21^st, 2021 at 12:57am	Print Post
	I understand, correctly or incorrectly, that a dst pistol grip tang from a Winchester Hi wall will fit a low wall receiver from a Low wall Winder musket but not a regular Lo wall. I that a true statement? Maybe the Lo wall Winder is a cut down Hi wall. Tossing the idea around to make tack driver .22LR from a beater musket. Nothing carved in Stone though. Thanks for the thoughts Best Richard


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2102 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #1 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 2:10am	Print Post
	All of what ssdave said is true, but the double sets sure do look nifty!! and one does not have to use the set trigger. Also, shooting from the bench lessens some of the problems mentioned above. Ballard double set triggers are better than most in my opinion, excluding some of the custom makers triggers. Neal Rice was making a very light single trigger for Ballard rifles, but unfortunately only had time to make a few. There are other trigger wizards out there, others here may be able to identify them.

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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1827 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #2 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 7:40am	Print Post
	I have a shooting friend that had a standard low wall fitted up with MVA Helm triggers and made into a beautiful shooting 22. It is a gorgeous rifle and if he doesn't hold the club record at a hundred yards then there's only one other guy that does shooting a tricked-out Model 52 Winchester. Maybe he'll see this post and post some pictures of his rifle.


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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 352 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #3 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 9:28am	Print Post
	Ssdave, thanks for that info, it sure makes things simpler. rkba2nd, is Neal Rice the same barrel maker? Oldwin, pics are always welcome. What is the largest dia barrel the low wall will accept at the breech? Thanks fellows Richard


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #4 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 9:37am	Print Post
	Richard Binger comes to mind but I am not sure if he is still around and doing trigger work.

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yamoon Frequent Elocutionist Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 1006 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #5 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 10:30am	Print Post
	Not sure I agree entirely, it requires just as much, perhaps more skill and practice to manage a DST as a good standard trigger. DST will increase lock time and perhaps introduce vibration, it takes a much better offhand shooter than myself to have these things effect the score. The 10 pound plus weight of most target rifles does a lot to dampen vibration. I don’t shoot any bench, so I cannot speak to DST effecting score off the bench. Mike


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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 352 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #6 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 10:34am	Print Post
	On trigger work that I have done on 1911’s and three screw Ruger single actions I made blocks with pins that are used to locate the trigger/sear assemblies and also jigs to locate same for stoning. Also adjusting trigger over travel is most important for a good trigger job too. Thanks Richard


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BPCRDave Participating Member Offline Posts: 22 Location: Centerville MN Joined: Mar 19^th, 2012	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #7 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 11:38am	Print Post
	Ssdave sold me a very early LW action. Built it with a Benchmark barrel and MVA wide double set triggers. The triggers came in January of the first year that they were available. The triggers were "perfect", both fit and finish. BPCRDave


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2102 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #8 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 1:52pm	Print Post
	Grand Slam To answer your question regarding Neal Rice, no, Neal was not a barrel maker, a very fine gunsmith and stockmaker, and best friend, yes. He also worked for Matt Canjar, making and helping to design triggers for many years. Neal sadly passed away September 2014.

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mqabbi Full Member Offline Posts: 109 Joined: Nov 6^th, 2015	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #9 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 5:48pm	Print Post
	My 2c. I do not have any experience with double set trigger. Single set yes. I can see and appreciate their use in hunting, but not for target shooting for the reasons aptly described previously. I have two MS rifles and a Drilling with original ss triggers. The most accurate rifle that I have is a Mauser M66 with a trigger that Canjar made for me specifically in the early 90's to fit this UIT free rifle. It is set for 7 grams ( call it 1/4oz) and breaks smoother than frozen filament glass even today after rifle has rebarrelled the rifle twice


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #10 - Oct 22^nd, 2021 at 11:06am	Print Post
	BPCRDave the choice to use a Benchmark Barrel probably has allot to do with the outstanding accuracy success. I am actually quite surprised that others have not chosen to use the same. Not sure where they stand right now but they were producing the most accurate Rimfire barrels that were being made. That is also a very Stunning and very Charming LW Rifle that you have.

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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 352 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	Re: Double set triggers Winchester Reply #11 - Oct 22^nd, 2021 at 9:54pm	Print Post
	I agree, a most beautiful rifle with the target to match. Cheers Richard


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