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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Oct 14^th, 2021 at 9:27pm	Print Post
	My bias would be toward a rebarrelled Stevens 44. Not expensive, and it's the only one of the old actions that really "crowds" the round into a competition chamber like a bolt action does. In the late '30s the 44-based Moldel 417 was neck-and-neck with the Winchester 52, by some accounts. Ballards and the Stevens 44-1/2 also do a fair job, but are expensive. But if $2000 for a new rifle doesn't daunt you, a new CPA replica of the 44-1/2 would be a great start.

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1592 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #1 - Oct 14^th, 2021 at 9:51pm	Print Post
	Don't look down on a used Martini International. My CPA. 22 is the most accurate 22 I've owned but my two BSA International rifles are not far behind and less than half the cost.
	« Last Edit: Oct 14^th, 2021 at 11:17pm by Cbashooter »

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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1985 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #2 - Oct 14^th, 2021 at 10:11pm	Print Post
	Gator, Here's an article you may find interesting on the subject. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Wayne


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1782 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #3 - Oct 14^th, 2021 at 10:12pm	Print Post
	I add my suggestion to CBA Shooter's for the Martini International as a reasonable way to get into a really good shooting .22 LR rifle. The MKII of mine is a tack driver. It has been competitive for me in Mini Palma 100yds matches against Win 52s, and even close in to the high buck Voodoo PRC rifles. Others are shooting Martinis to good effect in the .22LR category at Schuetzen matches, beltfed/arnie


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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 912 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #4 - Oct 15^th, 2021 at 10:22am	Print Post
	My vote is for The BSA International too. I have less than $1000 in mine and it is stunningly accurate, with a highly adjustable trigger. My other .22 target guns, Walnut Hill, M52, Ballard, and older Martini, are also very very accurate but when the chips are down in benchrest single shot competition it's the BSA International that I choose. Struck a 249x250 with it a couple weeks ago at our local schuetzenfest, with the lone flier being about 1/64" shy of nipping the white bull. That said, my Walnut Hill may be my favorite for shear nostalgia/aesthetic reasons. It can be counted on to yield 3/8" 5 shot groups at 50 with Tenex, but the BSA is an honest 1/4" gun at that distance. In terms of Low Walls, I have a Miroku Low Wall .22 that is very very accurate too, but is configured as a hunting rifle. (Although I did win my class at a smallbore silhouette match with it last year.)


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #5 - Oct 15^th, 2021 at 10:44am	Print Post
	Just a note when it comes to a HiWall 22 when inserting and removing cases it can become quite a frustrating struggle. It is not unusual to have an empty case fall down into the breech block and dismantling the action can become mandatory to get it back. With that being said a fellow competitor in our group has done very well with a double set trigger Italian clone in 100 yard ISSA and ASSRA Benchrest competition. I also believe it might be for sale as he has since picked up a CPA and also a Ballard rifle.

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CajunRebel Oldtimer Offline Posts: 692 Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: Nov 18^th, 2007	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #6 - Oct 15^th, 2021 at 1:30pm	Print Post
	Once in awhile I'll insert a cartridge in front of the extractor or the fired-brass falls into the action. As mention here, the best tool is a 4-Prong Gem Tweezer.
	« Last Edit: Oct 21^st, 2021 at 9:37am by CajunRebel »

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #7 - Oct 15^th, 2021 at 4:36pm	Print Post
	Here is mine and SSteel and under 10 dollars. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1782 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #8 - Oct 15^th, 2021 at 5:11pm	Print Post
	HI walls in 22 lr caliber. Yes, can be hard to load etc This subject is LOWWALLS- much better loading, ejecting 22LRs. beltfed/arnie


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CajunRebel Oldtimer Offline Posts: 692 Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: Nov 18^th, 2007	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #9 - Oct 15^th, 2021 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	But difficulty loading also occurs with low-walls, albeit, less so. My 22lr is a low-wall and glad to have have it.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #10 - Oct 15^th, 2021 at 6:16pm	Print Post
	When Pope Milled off one of the HiWalls on a HiWall action he was well aware of how difficult it could actually be. What is interesting to me is I know of no one who has also done the same as he.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #11 - Oct 15^th, 2021 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	Beltfed I apologize for not going back to the OP's Original posting and not now realizing it was all about LoWalls.

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CharleHunter Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 364 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2019	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #12 - Oct 20^th, 2021 at 10:24pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Oct 15^th, 2021 at 6:16pm: When Pope Milled off one of the HiWalls on a HiWall action he was well aware of how difficult it could actually be. What is interesting to me is I know of no one who has also done the same as he. I have a 22 LR highwall put together by Ron Snover with the Pope Modification of the righthand side wall milled away


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2871 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #13 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	Why not just get an old Winder? They are still around.


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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: Reproduction low wall rifles Reply #14 - Oct 21^st, 2021 at 9:13pm	Print Post
	I would agree, it would be a shame to ruin a good high wall action for anything but. 22's. when it could be traded for a low wall action or a low wall could be purchased for that purpose. But if you own the action it's yours to do whatever you want with it. Lee Gibbs pres.ASSRA


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