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SchwarzStock Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1309 Location: SchwarzWald Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2010	Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Sep 9^th, 2021 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	I cannot find a a chamber or cartridge drawing for the Remington 50 rimfire caliber rolling block rifle. If the block were changed to CF would the chamber dimensions align with the 50-70 Govt? SS

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cheatin_charlie Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 425 Location: ohio Joined: Jan 10^th, 2009	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #1 - Sep 9^th, 2021 at 6:48pm	Print Post
	At one time I had some rimfire cartridges but sold them long ago. Cartridges of the world 9th edition which I have lists the dimensions for both and they are very similar. Looks like they interchange but be careful on the length of your chamber the center fire is a little longer but if need be you could trim a little off the case. Best way is do a chamber cast and compare to new 50-70 chamber to be sure. By the way got $50 each for the rimfire cartridges when I sold them.


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John Taylor Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1851 Location: Lewiston, ID Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2006	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #2 - Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:15pm	Print Post
	There were a couple 50 cal. rimfire cartridges. The Nave and Army pistol and the cadet rifle used a very small rimfire cartridge with about 25 grains of powder. Best to pore a chamber cast to see what you have.

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sportslube Oldtimer Offline Posts: 596 Location: Eau Claire, wi Joined: May 13^th, 2008	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #3 - Sep 9^th, 2021 at 7:42pm	Print Post
	Be careful when you do your chamber cast, if it run into the extractor area it is very hard to get out.


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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1122 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #4 - Sep 9^th, 2021 at 8:23pm	Print Post
	Could it be chambered for .56-50? That's what my Remington split breech is. Its a great shooter with a 350gr bullet.


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SchwarzStock Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1309 Location: SchwarzWald Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2010	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #5 - Sep 10^th, 2021 at 1:09am	Print Post
	56-50? I don/t know. I found two carbines for sale, not cheap but in excellent condition. I recently moved and almost all of my books are in boxes. Can/t find one that is driving me crazy, replacement is $110.

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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1151 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #6 - Sep 10^th, 2021 at 9:35am	Print Post
	John, Only the first issue of the navy rolling block pistols were rimfire. Most were soon converted to centerfire. The "cadet" was made from the navy pistols are as far as I know all were center fire. The army pistol was center fire from the get-go. There is a slight difference between the navy and army CF cartridges. If I remember right the navy will chamber in the army, but not the other way around. The Army pistol is really fun to shoot using Lyman 515139 bullet and 22 grains of FFFg. The "Cadet," based on the Navy pistol, can be fired, but probably was never intended to be fired. There is no recoil lug on the barrel and the forearm will "walk" with the recoil. I found that out when I chronographed the Cadet rifle I had. George


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John Taylor Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1851 Location: Lewiston, ID Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2006	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #7 - Sep 10^th, 2021 at 10:19am	Print Post
	George Babits wrote on Sep 10^th, 2021 at 9:35am: John, Only the first issue of the navy rolling block pistols were rimfire. Most were soon converted to centerfire. The "cadet" was made from the navy pistols are as far as I know all were center fire. The army pistol was center fire from the get-go. There is a slight difference between the navy and army CF cartridges. If I remember right the navy will chamber in the army, but not the other way around. The Army pistol is really fun to shoot using Lyman 515139 bullet and 22 grains of FFFg. The "Cadet," based on the Navy pistol, can be fired, but probably was never intended to be fired. There is no recoil lug on the barrel and the forearm will "walk" with the recoil. I found that out when I chronographed the Cadet rifle I had. George It appears that not all books have the same information. The only pistol I had was a rimfire so I can only go by what someone ells says.

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John Taylor Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1851 Location: Lewiston, ID Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2006	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #8 - Sep 10^th, 2021 at 10:31am	Print Post
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RBKenn Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 316 Location: fallon Joined: Apr 8^th, 2011	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #9 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 12:42pm	Print Post
	The original Navy pistol that is still rf is a much more rare item than the cf production. Remington and/or more specifically Marcus Hartley (while owner of Remington) made several small lot contracts of .50 caliber rim fire carbines for local groups and small government agencies in Mexico. Many of these sales were delivered to Texas gun shops on the US side of the border. One carbine lot even has a convertible block to allow the use of both cf and rf cartridges. The latter carbines are seldom seen and typically in rather poor condition. It can be a bit of a surprise to open the breech on a BPC carbine and discover it is a rim fire.


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RBKenn Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 316 Location: fallon Joined: Apr 8^th, 2011	Re: Remington Rolling Block 50 caliber rimfire? Reply #10 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 1:27pm	Print Post
	Here is an example of one of the 50 rf carbines. Early receiver pre 1874 manufacture.


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