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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1151 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #15 - Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:11pm	Print Post
	I am building a 36 caliber early style flintlock rifle with a set of parts from Track of the Wolf. It is a bit more of an intimidating project than I thought it would be, but it will get done thios winter. I'm in no hurry. Best thing about a flintlock is no need for caps or primers. I can have all the flints I want for the picking up in a couple of places around here. George


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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1672 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #16 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 8:46am	Print Post
	762x51 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 2:05pm: I'm thinking of buying this kit: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) What do you folks think of Jim Kibler's kits? I built one in .58 for flintlock season here in PA. The kit was easy to assemble compared to others. The swamped barrel gives it excellent balance. I love the way it handles. Jim has a number of assembly video's on U-Tube. You won't be disappointed. Bob

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762x51 Participating Member Offline Posts: 40 Location: Greensboro, NC Joined: Apr 8^th, 2015	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #17 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	Redrighthand wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:21am: What is " reasonable"? ≈ $1,000 - $1,200
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762x51 Participating Member Offline Posts: 40 Location: Greensboro, NC Joined: Apr 8^th, 2015	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #18 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 5:33pm	Print Post
	rkaires wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 8:46am: 762x51 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 2:05pm: I'm thinking of buying this kit: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) What do you folks think of Jim Kibler's kits? I built one in .58 for flintlock season here in PA. The kit was easy to assemble compared to others. The swamped barrel gives it excellent balance. I love the way it handles. Jim has a number of assembly video's on U-Tube. You won't be disappointed. Bob I'll probably go with a Kibler Colonial kit - Due to the price and great kit I think that's the way to go.

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Redrighthand Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: New Liberty Iowa Joined: Jan 24^th, 2021	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #19 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 6:46pm	Print Post
	Kibler kit is the way to go. I have built several. They take me 4-7 hours and they're ready to stain and finish.

	Mike Brooks
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mikeyfirelock Participating Member Offline Posts: 48 Location: NW Indiana Joined: Sep 14^th, 2016	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #20 - Aug 1^st, 2021 at 10:28am	Print Post
	I will second the Kibler kit. I’ve built 25 - 30 muzzleloaders and made all the mistakes you can make doing them. (I build mine from scratch pretty much, And would not recommend thatfor a first effort) The Kibler kit comes ready to assemble….it may require some minor fitting of some parts ( I’ve been told that sandpaper is all that’s necessary to accomplish the fitting by several who have done this.) You will end up with a very nice rifle that you can be proud of by using a Kibler kit.

	Too many rifles.....not enough money
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762x51 Participating Member Offline Posts: 40 Location: Greensboro, NC Joined: Apr 8^th, 2015	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #21 - Aug 1^st, 2021 at 2:20pm	Print Post
	1Hawkeye wrote on Jul 29^th, 2021 at 5:44pm: Try Kiblers longrifles he's got a couple of styles of nice looking very simple to assemble kits. Yes, VERY nice looking kits compared to other kits on the market Redrighthand wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 9:21am: What is " reasonable"? $800 - $1,200 for a kit in my opinion S99VG wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 1:07am: 1Hawkeye wrote on Jul 29^th, 2021 at 5:44pm: Try Kiblers longrifles he's got a couple of styles of nice looking very simple to assemble kits. Kibler's stuff looks pretty amazing. He has a series of instructional videos on YouTube on how to build his kits. And that strikes me as great customer service. I agree and have been watching his videos - They are very nice and show you how to make a beautiful rifle. 1Hawkeye wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 6:04pm: I think Kiblers kits are about as foolproof as you can make one. All the scarry stuff is pretty much done you just need to finish and assemble not to mention what he charges for high grade maple is very reasonable. I'd love to build one of his southern mountain kits in .32 or .36 caliber but I want the percussion lock of a later era rifle and he's not doing percussion yet. Watch some of his youtube stuff and it will help you decide. I have been watching his videos and am trying to decide on the wood I need to select. bobw wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 6:13pm: Having built a dozen longrifles, all from blanks, I can tell you Jim’s kits are pretty much just assemble and finish. I know the quality of Jim’s custom builds before he started the business and he is top notch. If you want a rifle with the proper architecture, have the ability and can spend the money buy his kit, I doubt you will regret it. If you go over to the americanlongrifle site, you will find dozens of people that have assembled them. Jim also frequents the site. I have been over to the American Longrifle site and there is a ton of info regarding the Kibler's kits and I have found no dislike of Kibler's kits. I just need to deside on which wood to get, the Cherry, Maple or Walnut. I am going to get the Colonial kit.

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1Hawkeye Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 269 Location: South end of Northern Virginia Joined: Jun 29^th, 2019	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #22 - Aug 1^st, 2021 at 6:37pm	Print Post
	Cherry and walnut look nice but maple is the easyist to work when sanding and finishing. If you like the look the extra fancy maple that would be a very pretty longrifle. But its your build so its up to what you prefer. If you do go maple I would suggest using stain from laurel mountain forge rather than the old aquafortis / nitric acid stain.


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Redrighthand Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: New Liberty Iowa Joined: Jan 24^th, 2021	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #23 - Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:58am	Print Post
	I have been teaching kibler kit assembly classes at the NMLRA for a couple years. All but one student went home with a finished gun in the five day class. Next class will be in March 2022.

	Mike Brooks
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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2107 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #24 - Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 10:07am	Print Post
	There is nothing nicer than a nice piece of curly maple on a longrifle. Not knocking walnut or cherry but you can’t wrong with the maple and anything from somewhat plain to high end with lots of curl will look good. If Redrighthand is who I think he is you can’t go wrong with him either!

	Robert Warren
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Redrighthand Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: New Liberty Iowa Joined: Jan 24^th, 2021	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #25 - Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 10:07am: There is nothing nicer than a nice piece of curly maple on a longrifle. Not knocking walnut or cherry but you can’t wrong with the maple and anything from somewhat plain to high end with lots of curl will look good. If Redrighthand is who I think he is you can’t go wrong with him either! Probably only one gunmaker in New Liberty IA.

	Mike Brooks
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762x51 Participating Member Offline Posts: 40 Location: Greensboro, NC Joined: Apr 8^th, 2015	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #26 - Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 6:13pm	Print Post
	1Hawkeye wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 6:04pm: I think Kiblers kits are about as foolproof as you can make one. All the scarry stuff is pretty much done you just need to finish and assemble not to mention what he charges for high grade maple is very reasonable. I'd love to build one of his southern mountain kits in .32 or .36 caliber but I want the percussion lock of a later era rifle and he's not doing percussion yet. Watch some of his youtube stuff and it will help you decide. I agree, Kibler’s kits look to be the best kit’s you can buy, if you want that style gun. I have been watching his videos and they are VERY helpful. bobw wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 6:13pm: Having built a dozen longrifles, all from blanks, I can tell you Jim’s kits are pretty much just assemble and finish. I know the quality of Jim’s custom builds before he started the business and he is top notch. If you want a rifle with the proper architecture, have the ability and can spend the money buy his kit, I doubt you will regret it. If you go over to the americanlongrifle site, you will find dozens of people that have assembled them. Jim also frequents the site. I’ve read a lot over on the American Longrifles.org site and have learned a lot regarding the Kibler. I have placed an order for a Kibler’s Colonial American Longrifle in .50 cal. with the maple stock and a patch box. I was told that I would get it in about 3 weeks.

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Redrighthand Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: New Liberty Iowa Joined: Jan 24^th, 2021	Re: WTB: Flintlock Rifle Reply #27 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:22am	Print Post
	762x51 wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 6:13pm: 1Hawkeye wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 6:04pm: I think Kiblers kits are about as foolproof as you can make one. All the scarry stuff is pretty much done you just need to finish and assemble not to mention what he charges for high grade maple is very reasonable. I'd love to build one of his southern mountain kits in .32 or .36 caliber but I want the percussion lock of a later era rifle and he's not doing percussion yet. Watch some of his youtube stuff and it will help you decide. I agree, Kibler’s kits look to be the best kit’s you can buy, if you want that style gun. I have been watching his videos and they are VERY helpful. bobw wrote on Jul 30^th, 2021 at 6:13pm: Having built a dozen longrifles, all from blanks, I can tell you Jim’s kits are pretty much just assemble and finish. I know the quality of Jim’s custom builds before he started the business and he is top notch. If you want a rifle with the proper architecture, have the ability and can spend the money buy his kit, I doubt you will regret it. If you go over to the americanlongrifle site, you will find dozens of people that have assembled them. Jim also frequents the site. I’ve read a lot over on the American Longrifles.org site and have learned a lot regarding the Kibler. I have placed an order for a Kibler’s Colonial American Longrifle in .50 cal. with the maple stock and a patch box. I was told that I would get it in about 3 weeks. I would consider a .58. A .50 is going to be heavy. A .58 weighs about 9-9.5lbs so a fifty is going to be heavier.

	Mike Brooks
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762x51 Participating Member Offline Posts: 40 Location: Greensboro, NC Joined: Apr 8^th, 2015	Re: Flintlock Rifle Kit Reply #28 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:43pm	Print Post
	I sure wish that Kibler would make a Mountain rifle in .50 Cal with brass fittings.

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SBoomer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Flintlock Rifle Kit Reply #29 - Aug 16^th, 2021 at 7:11pm	Print Post
	Google Pecatonica River rifles and prepare to lose several hours to the site.....Ive wanted one for years.


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