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Re: Very early #2 Remington rolling block
Reply #15 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 11:18am
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One more just for the record and fun!  #2 frame compared to a #7 casting from Rodney Storie.  The #7 is what I have in process.
  

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Reply #16 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 11:31am
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Second "one more"!  This shows a pin set in the side of the frame that is a stop for the rotary extractor.  It is only visible from the inside.
  

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Reply #17 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 11:38am
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Those are great, thanks for sharing.  The cracked frame is surprising. Is it chambered for .38 Extra Long?  If so, I wonder if the extra power of an XL length cartridge contributed to the cracks.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 11:56am
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Steve, Yes it is 38 extra long, (correction 38 long not extra long), at least that fits the chamber.  The crack was discuses a while back in this thread. (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
My opinion is that the cartridge had nothing to do with the cracks.  The pins, hammer and breech block are still tight and do not contact the frame.  It doesn’t appear to have been abused so I think over 150 years of handling, use, wood expansion and contraction it has worked on the frame and cracked it.  When I discussed it with Peter at Restorative Welding he said he has seen this on many different makes not just the #2 Rolling blocks.
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Reply #19 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 12:03pm
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Steve, I am curious about your gun.  The picture is not real clear so I am probably seeing thing that aren’t there but looking at it it looks like there may be a small crack starting on the right side outside corner.  Do you see anything there on the gun?
  

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Reply #20 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 12:03pm
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Had to dig mine out of the safe, as I was uncertain what serial number range it was in? But mine appears to be from decades later than these #2's. It's in the 20,000 range, so a lot newer.
Mine is a .32-20, and in pretty nice shape. I've used it out to 500 yds. and it's amazingly accurate even at the mid range distance. Bore looks like new, and it has all the original finish on wood, and maybe 95% barrel blue. It has no steel tip, and just the ebony V in the forearm tip. 26" barrel.
It does have a very strange breech block, as it appears to have a sight notch in the center, even though it has a rear Rocky Mountain style barrel sight?

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I have changed the sights for long range shooting, so it has a mid range vernier, and a globe front. The vernier is a modern repro.

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Reply #21 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 12:10pm
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Nice looking gun Vall.  And that is an interesting breech block.  Have any clearer pictures from different angles?
  

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Reply #22 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 12:17pm
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That V-notch is interesting.  I have a .32-20 #2 in the 42,000 range, very late production. But no V-notch.
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 1:42pm
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I just corrected myself, after getting out to my shop and rechecking.  It was a 38 long rimfire that fit not the 38 extra long.   
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Reply #24 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 1:57pm
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Oh yes, I recall that discussion now - thanks.

I took a good look at mine with a magnifier, but didnt see any cracks. Here is a better pic of that area. 
  
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Reply #25 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 2:44pm
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A few photos of the bore. Pretty ugly in there  Cry

  
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Reply #26 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 4:35pm
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bobw wrote on Jun 30th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
Nice looking gun Vall.  And that is an interesting breech block.  Have any clearer pictures from different angles?


Have to take a couple Bob. I set the camera on Macro to try to get a clear closeup of it, but maybe I need to just leave it on auto and let the camera figure it out.
  

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Re: Very early #2 Remington rolling block
Reply #27 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 7:28pm
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Steve, must just be seeing thing.  Yours looks good.
Thanks Vall.  I can imagine how they shaped it but be nice to actually see it.
This discussion really has me questioning what I should do with my gun!  My intent was to have the frame welded, polish and have recase hardened, possibly new wood even though the wood on it is good.  Line the barrel to a suitable caliber and convert the breech block to the centerfire.  But really wasn’t liking the rotary extractor and dealing with it.  Now I’m thinking about leaving it asis, I’ll just get it back together and maybe look for another in need of restoration.
  

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Reply #28 - Jun 30th, 2021 at 7:43pm
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Bob - do you think the rotary extractor would be a problem with modern brass and a cleanly cut new chamber? I would think it would be ok for something like .32-20.
  
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Re: Very early #2 Remington rolling block
Reply #29 - Jul 1st, 2021 at 7:34am
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Rough and ready rear sight on Bob's #2 has to be rare. Great thread! I miss having a #2.
  
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