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Reply #15 - Jun 21st, 2021 at 12:59pm
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Any chance that you might have some more pictures or information on this rifle that you could share. Thanks
  
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Reply #16 - Jun 21st, 2021 at 1:38pm
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Ed Yost made 30 actions - this was the last one he made for his son: SN 30.
The Swan buttstock was also designed by Ed Yost.
This one is chambered in .32 RKS with a gain twist Ron Smith barrel finishing at a 11.5 twist to shoot 232 grain bullets.
It shoots very well - targets showing adjustments after changing bullet seating depths with adjustable Weber seater.
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Reply #17 - Jun 21st, 2021 at 11:16pm
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Thank you for the information.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 21st, 2021 at 11:29pm
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Dave,

Isn't Tom's rebar barreled rifle on a Yost action?

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Reply #19 - Jun 22nd, 2021 at 4:46pm
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Yes. Duanne Jenner holding Tom's Yost barreled using structural high grade rebar.
It was difficult for Ron to rifle due to variations in hardness of the rebar.
Ron Smith had two Yost actions and sold one to Tom. 
I had the third Yost action purchased by a Canadian and I sold it to Colleen & Rob. 
Steve Holborn (Canadian) bought the Yost manufacturing parts and he has made some Yost parts. 
He was going to sell actions. 
But health issues got in the way.

When I started shooting Schuetzen: the side of the forearm had to be 90 degrees and you were not allowed to angle or bevel the sides to improve tracking in the sandbag. 
The sides of Tom's Yost forearm are angled in to the top - when did they remove this restriction from the rules?
The Schuetzenmeister is supposed to be able to lift the rifle freely from the front sandbag.
If the front rest is picked up when the rifle is lifted then it is a mechanical rest which is not allowed.
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Reply #20 - Jun 26th, 2021 at 11:48am
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Really Dave!!
Have you ever attempted to lift the gun from the rest or requested it being checked in the 13 yrs I've used it?
All I'll say is your a fool Dave........ 
And nowhere does it say 90 degrees 
Yes it must be lifted without lifting the front rest! 
And that is exactually how it's built!
Easy peasy David you just never look close enough to understand!
  
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Reply #21 - Jun 26th, 2021 at 4:50pm
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Tom Over the years you ridiculously challenged everyone for impeachment of the rules.
I never challenged you since I always beat you regardless of your indiscretions.
Now that I am not shooting everyone else are now aware of your indiscretion and will be monitoring you at future shoots.
If you are following the rules then this should be of no concern to you.
  
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Reply #22 - Jun 26th, 2021 at 5:05pm
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Dave, and you wonder why your not invited to local shots!
The rules are very clear, word for word they are followed!
But it's OK we all understand how Meds. Cause some people problems so with that in mind your forgiven by me publically. I'll be shooting my Yost that was retired, on the weekend and ever shooter will be invited to inspect it! 
And that's all I'll say! 
Good luck.
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 26th, 2021 at 6:37pm
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Singleshotom you are indeed correct about what the rules clearly point out as being perfectly acceptable.
  

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Reply #24 - Jun 26th, 2021 at 7:13pm
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When I started shooting Schuetzen decades ago a Schuetzenmeister advised me an angled forearm could have the sand bag lay over the edge of a beveled forearm preventing it from being freely lifted from the bags which was interpreted as being in violation of using a machine rest. Although the rules did not say forearms had to be 90 degrees it was understood they would slide up without the sandbags restricting their upward movement. Rules about  machine rests are no longer clear in the present rules.

I have discussed with some Schuetzenmeisters and they adamantly enforce the rule the rifle has to be freely picked up without lifting the front rest.

I understand the Schuetzenmeisters have discretion to make decisions on items not clearly defined in the rules.

So you can try to stick to only the words in the rules - or possibly be disqualified with what has been a long term enforced rule in the Schuetzen game.

Or change the rules to start accepting the use of machine rests.

Does not matter what I say - but what the Schuetzenmeisters will specifically impose on you.
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Reply #25 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 12:01am
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Read the rules! 
Issa match regulations  most Recent copy 2009
Section 1 --------- 1.6   deals with forearm
Section 8  --------- 8.7  deals with front rest
No other mention of either in any the rules in the book!
Go read if your so concerned..... 
And I will insist that ever shoot official will test my gun and rest. And measure what's in contact with the bag.
If your to lazy to go read for yourself. Don't embaress yourself a rounded side on a forarm has always been lawfull. Other wise no original rifle would be allowed to be used Dave. Never was anything in the Rules ever in this sport! Don't matter who told you what, that's the facts.
90 degrees have never been in the rules that we've shot under! Your really proving what people are asking Dave.
Research the rules then talk!
  
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Reply #26 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 6:38pm
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Can we go back to chatting about the Yost rifle
  
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Reply #27 - Jun 27th, 2021 at 7:19pm
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Yes please!!
Very disturbing to be attacked by a disgruntled shooting  on this forum!
I'm truly sorry for it.
Thnx
Sst
  
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Reply #28 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 9:23am
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Nothing to be sorry about SST and now we will move on back to the original subject at hand.
  

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Reply #29 - Jun 28th, 2021 at 5:34pm
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Well, now I will comment on the Yost action!
This my opinion only from my own experence.
It is a very well made action, the design is quite ingenious
And actually very simple when taken apart.
Like all actions there are things that may cause problems.
The one flaw I have experienced and I've heard from several Yost owners is the spring that basically operates the entire action. Now what myself an Ron Smith found from trial and error tests was that the shape is critical first off! Along with that the second thing and as important or more then shape is the spring strength. 
We had several springs that were made and found them not performing properly. So Ron started drawing them down, as you do with all springs and after several attemps at various tempatures we seemed to hit the exact tension!
Now without that knowledge of drawing down a spring it is very hard to get both perfect tension and not so brittle it breaks after quite a bit of use!
Unless of course you have a spring made and randomly drawn down an get lucky. 
Other then that these actions are a dream to use and work with. 
I'm very fortunate to own and used Mr. Yost's dream action 
And am very sorry that these are not readily available for more people to have, use and enjoy.
The making of more of these is not dead as I understand 
Steve Holborn of Ontario Canada has purchased the Rights, an equipment for them. Like some of us health issues have got in the way, but I hear he is on the mend and doing really good so there is hope!
Thnx for your time
Sst
  
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