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Reply #15 - May 21st, 2021 at 8:10am
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I would have to agree, for me the gold is out of place, and the engraving a little over the top. But there is someone somewhere, who is drooling over it!!!!
  

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Reply #16 - May 21st, 2021 at 9:48am
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Although I love period engraved single shot rifles, I rarely find those done later in life attractive or appealing to my eyes. Not that the work isn't sometimes extremely well done, but if it's not done in the period style it doesn't do it for me personally.
An original engraved single shot by almost any of the factory engravers, or engravers of that period, are just classic and beautiful firearms usually.
  

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Reply #17 - May 21st, 2021 at 11:54am
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The most appealing rifles to me are never engraved.  Ledball
  
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Reply #18 - May 21st, 2021 at 12:20pm
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It depends on how it looks overall. This is the Bresien 441/2 Stevens I once owned and I think the engraving is very appropriate to this rifle.

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Reply #19 - May 21st, 2021 at 1:03pm
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I am seldom very fond of any rifle that's engraved. Presentation bits can be intriguing, but not my sort of thing.
An ivory-gripped, engraved Single Action on the other hand.............................
  
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Reply #20 - May 21st, 2021 at 1:22pm
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I am not typically fond of engraving myself unless it actually adds some additional charm to a firearm. I have seen some engraving over the years that just doesn't seem to be appropriate for that particular firearm. Real nice wood and checkering I feel adds allot more to a rifle and probably more so than engraving. But I have seen some exceptions to where both can actually compliment each other and the outcome is absolutely stunning. When one over powers the other it now becomes just the complete opposite.
  

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Reply #21 - May 21st, 2021 at 4:14pm
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If it is not engraved, it's just a collection of parts coming down the line and assembled by a mechanic who is thinking about getting to his beer.
  
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Reply #22 - May 21st, 2021 at 4:39pm
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John, your Stevens was a gorgeous example of modern engraving that's done as the old masters did it, and very pleasing to me.
Engraving isn't for everyone, and some people think engraved guns should be wall hangers, and not even fired. Owners who ordered these type of guns didn't think that way back when they bought them. Of course with the cost of fancy guns in the 1800's running 3-4 times the plain versions they were used with care; but they did get to see loots of use.
I've only had one gun ever engraved, and I had it kept simple as I wanted it to not cover everything or cover too much.

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Reply #23 - May 21st, 2021 at 5:13pm
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I always liked the Hepburn you had chiseld, Vall. It is restrained enough to have a dignity, rather than the gaudy appearance that some have. 
Not all engraved guns are displeasing to me, but the conservative sort will usually be the one that makes the best impression on me. I do realize the amount of work that it takes to produce the squiggly lines- even more to do it at a very high standard. 
And, I guess that oneatatime thinks that GT's stuff is just done on the trip to the next beer break, since they aren't often engraved. Oh, well.
  
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Reply #24 - May 21st, 2021 at 6:21pm
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GT does not have an assembly line! There's loving care in each file cut.
  
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Reply #25 - May 21st, 2021 at 6:59pm
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Vall your Hepburn is a great example of having just enough to fully compliment the rest of your rifle.
  

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Reply #26 - May 21st, 2021 at 8:14pm
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This rifle was some person's dream rifle. I have a soft spot for Niedners but this one would never see the snow or woods.
  
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Reply #27 - May 21st, 2021 at 9:16pm
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Prefer original style too. One of my CPA actions as received from Ken Burklow & reassembled. Ken went to some length researching original Stevens engraving. This actions design is from an original he borrowed. 

I questioned the differences from original. Ken said it was and still is common to order engraving to suit a dollar budget. Tight budget little less, more to spend more engraving. Original rifles rarely identical depending on the engraver and coverage desired. Similar in general design not carbon copy’s  

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Reply #28 - May 21st, 2021 at 9:21pm
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Photo failed to attach, another try, Ken Burklow engraved CPA
  
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Re: Niedner Barreled Engraved 1885 Win.
Reply #29 - May 22nd, 2021 at 10:07am
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calledflyer wrote on May 21st, 2021 at 5:13pm:
I always liked the Hepburn you had chiseld, Vall. It is restrained enough to have a dignity, rather than the gaudy appearance that some have. 
Not all engraved guns are displeasing to me, but the conservative sort will usually be the one that makes the best impression on me. I do realize the amount of work that it takes to produce the squiggly lines- even more to do it at a very high standard. 


It's actually got more engraving than I asked for back when I had it done, but I still like it. I met with Dale Woody and had discussed having the action engraved, color cased, and the barrel rust blued. I told him just some light engraving on each side, and my initials on the top barrel flat above the chamber. When he brought it back it was both sides, the top of the receiver ring, the trigger guard, lever, lower and upper tangs, and out on the barrel on the top three flats. And the E. Remington & Sons on the barrel.
I'm not sure how he did it all, but it cost me $450 for all the work, including the color case and rust bluing. I think he thought I was disappointed when he handed it to me because I just stood there dumb founded! When I could finally speak I asked if he was certain I didn't owe him more?
Of course that was probably 15 years ago? But even then it was crazy cheap.
  

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