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Buggered up screw removal?
May 14th, 2021 at 11:19am
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My Stevens 44 has the screw that holds a firing pin really buggered up in frozen like the Dickens. I've soaked it in solvent and it won't move.

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Reply #1 - May 14th, 2021 at 12:11pm
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I have a Nephew who is a lead mechanic/tech at Duracell. I had a screw I could not budge after solvent and heat.
He suggested that the area around it be warmed so it would expand and get hot enough that it would melt a small birthday candle and draw the wax down in and around the screw. Give it about 20 minutes or Soto cool and  it came right out..
Worth a try ad good luck.

If you can't get it out because the head is buggered.I am no help.

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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2021 at 12:43pm
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I have removed such screws with an end mill just slightly smaller than the threads. If you have access to a milling machine and can find the right size endmill, you can remove 95% of the screw and dig out the rest with a pick. I have done this several times with excellent success. Worse case scenario, you damage the threads and drill and tap to a larger screw. I have never heard of the candle approach before but will investigate it.
  
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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2021 at 1:16pm
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If the slot is not overly screwed up put a little pressure on the screw and tap the top of the screw driver with a hammer. More times than it will break it loose.
  

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Reply #4 - May 14th, 2021 at 2:13pm
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Anyone try one of those impact screw drivers or even an electric impact driver?  I've used both with some success but never on a gun.
  
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Reply #5 - May 14th, 2021 at 2:34pm
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The screw so buggered up even putting hard pressure with a screw driver doesn't work I've tried the heating and cooling a couple of times. I might just have to bring it to my buddy's house i.and let his mill do the work.
I'm gonna try the heating and cooling cycle a couple more times though.
Thanks for everybody suggestions I have a weekend project now
  
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Reply #7 - May 14th, 2021 at 4:09pm
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  I have had success at times using an automatic center punch or even a small cape chisel to get them to turn.
  

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Reply #8 - May 14th, 2021 at 7:43pm
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Never tried wax, but have tried heating the screw heads using my Weller soldering gun, and then apply Kroil to the area to suck that into the heated screw.
I've used a bit in my drill press so I can put heavy pressure on the screw, and then use a rod in the chuck hole to turn the chuck while holding downward pressure on the screw. 
All else fails I use Dave's suggestion of drilling them out with a left hand drill bit. They often catch and unscrew themselves before they're drilled out.
  

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Thanks I ordered the set. So far I've tried every trick in the book nothing has worked
  
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Reply #10 - May 15th, 2021 at 11:42am
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In drilling out tiny screws, I find that it's best to start the hole with a center drill before switching to a left hand drill or tiny center cutting end mill.
If you start with a tiny end mill, go very slow as they break easy and are relatively expensive.
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Reply #11 - May 15th, 2021 at 1:17pm
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If you flip the breechblock over and drill from the end opposite the head, you won't need a left-hand drill.  Precise centering will be easier, too.   

One of the first 44s I ever did had a "Bubba Special" firing pin in it. The relief for the retaining screw was too short, (or the tail of the pin was too long) so the pin was stopped by the cross screw every time the hammer fell.  The screw body was so badly buggered that it would never have come out.  (I inferred this from the looks of the firing pin after I had drilled the screw out.)  No amount of heat or penetrating oil would have solved that one.
  

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Reply #12 - May 16th, 2021 at 7:55am
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I agree with uscra112.  If you must drill a screw out and the thread end is available, that's where you go in.  After all, whether it's the screw body or the threads that are the hindrance, to best avoid having to retap, you need to go down the center of the threads precisely.  Plus I think I've only got one left-hand drill in my stash.

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Reply #13 - May 16th, 2021 at 12:10pm
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When I bought my set of left hand drill bits I was surprised how reasonably priced they were. It's been many years ago when I bought my set, and it only goes up to 1/4" largest diameter. But the price for the set wasn't much more than a std. right hand set. You can still buy them allover Amazon and other places for about $20-$30 a set. I use them seldom, but wouldn't be caught without a set on the bench.
  

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Reply #14 - May 16th, 2021 at 12:55pm
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I am not sure I would even try using a drill press on a small screw unless it has close to zero runout and why its best to use a good as well as a very ridgid mill. One would probably also want to use a self centering end mill in a collet instead of a drill bit mounted in a drill chuck. That also tend to have a little run out all of their own but that is also just my own opinion. And prior to using a slightly larger in size left hand drill bit if one has both that are small enough for such a task. Or at a minimum to just to get the left hand drill bit started to go in perfectly centered up first while also allowing it to possibly wanting to flex abit especially if being of a smaller size.
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