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bucksnort Full Member Offline Posts: 148 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Jun 8^th, 2014	Scoring Plug? Apr 26^th, 2021 at 4:47pm	Print Post
	Is there anyone that makes a .320/.321 scoring plug with magnifier? Thanks.


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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1093 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #1 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:45pm	Print Post
	bucksnort wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 4:47pm: Is there anyone that makes a .320/.321 scoring plug with magnifier? Thanks. "Champion's Choice" lists them. CHRIS


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #2 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 7:18pm	Print Post
	When I was running our clubs Schuetzen matches and for seven years straight. I had a full set of the ASSRA overlays to use to honestly help to score each competitors targets. When shooting the CBA group matches the Scorer also had to have what you are looking for. As well as a magnified scoring tool to also go with it. The problem with just using the scoring plugs is the actual bullet hole could actually be inadvertently changed by how it was inserted into the bullet hole itself.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16159 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #3 - Apr 27^th, 2021 at 10:24am	Print Post
	If the hole is close enough that you need a scoring plug to check it, it will always make the higher score once the plug is inserted. In years of shooting bullseye match pistol I never saw a plug used that didn't end up expanding the hole just enough to make it count.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #4 - Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:15am	Print Post
	It is very hard to score targets where the bullet has to be more than half way in to count for the higher score. It is not unusual to have several targets with the bullets meplat hole being right on the line. In this instance a plug would be hard to use as quit a few bullets have a bit of a tip to them. To where the meplat is in but the tipped bullet hole appears to be out and this is where an overlay would be the better choice to use.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16159 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #5 - Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:49am	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Apr 27^th, 2021 at 11:15am: It is very hard to score targets where the bullet has to be more than half way in to count for the higher score. It is not unusual to have several targets with the bullets meplat hole being right on the line. In this instance a plug would be hard to use as quit a few bullets have a bit of a tip to them. To where the meplat is in but the tipped bullet hole appears to be out and this is where an overlay would be the better choice to use. Is "halfway in" the rule for scoring? In most matches I shot in it was touching the next higher ring that counted. Haven't shot a match where halfway in was the rule. That would make even a plug tough to score, as how do you exactly tell "halfway"?

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #6 - Apr 27^th, 2021 at 12:04pm	Print Post
	Vall here is the ISSA Scoring Rules and ASSRA's do differ abit but one can easily look them up on this site. SECTION 7 - SCORING 7.1 All 22 rimfire matches will be scored from the leaded edge. 7.2 In centerfire bench rest matches the shot will be scored from the center of the bullet hole. 7.3 Several techniques exist to determine the score of a shot close to a higher scoring ring. The scoring crew will use the leaded edge of the bullet hole rather than plugs, etc. A keyhole shot will be scored from the geometric center of the hole in bench rest and from the leaded edge in offhand. 7.4 Offhand matches will be scored from the leaded edge of the hole.

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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1859 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #7 - Apr 27^th, 2021 at 3:35pm	Print Post
	Val, John is referring to bench matches not offhand or position matches and mainly ISSA and ASSRA matches. Plugs don’t help usually for center of bullet scoring. For those Then most use overlays and transparencies. Pistol, smallbore, air gun and many others rely on plugs. That said there are different rules on plug dia tolerance just for .22 plugs. I had a set that were measured and sorted so we had 3 of each style that were at the top of the tolerance just for NRA indoor sectionals when I ran them. That way they got the full benefit of the plug.


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ron Oldtimer Offline Posts: 576 Location: Augusta Maine Joined: Nov 15^th, 2009	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #8 - Apr 28^th, 2021 at 6:34am	Print Post
	How do I concat about getting ASSRA overlays for scoring? ron


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16159 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #9 - Apr 28^th, 2021 at 9:54am	Print Post
	Overlays are far more accurate from my experience, and wont distort or enlarge the holes.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #10 - Apr 28^th, 2021 at 10:03am	Print Post
	My overlays were handed down from the previous match director.

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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2232 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #11 - Apr 28^th, 2021 at 10:27am	Print Post
	Used to use a folding linen tester (10X) with an inscribed reticle for the different calibers. Chuck


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #12 - Apr 28^th, 2021 at 10:58am	Print Post
	This would also be a nice magnifying tool for scoring targets. Just recently there was a post on another sight from a gentleman saying he was going to make some more. But I can't seem to find it now. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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bucksnort Full Member Offline Posts: 148 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Jun 8^th, 2014	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #13 - Apr 28^th, 2021 at 2:10pm	Print Post
	JLouis, That is exactly what I am looking for! I just measured the plug I've been using, and it measures .2997 dia. That's OK for friendly/local matches, but I would like one in .320 dia. One of my friends told me that the one I use is for 'pistol' scoring of the 32s.


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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 787 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: Scoring Plug? Reply #14 - Apr 30^th, 2021 at 11:18am	Print Post
	You will have no problem with this magnified scoring ring at .323. I'd call him to see if the price is the same.sure like mine,have had it for years..... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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