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Reply #15 - Mar 1st, 2021 at 11:30pm
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FWIW, Bought a jar of NAPA Grease Mix Valve Grinding Compound, Item No.765-2656.
Not as fine a finish as Greg is showing, but cuts better than the Clover tins I had been using.
Use it to lap the breech block to the receiver shoulders.

Greg, Remarkable work as usual.
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Reply #16 - Mar 1st, 2021 at 11:56pm
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Fantastic pictures and details as usual. I do find it particularly amusing Greg that you have time (and ability) to make a Damascus  lock plate but not the time to make a forend screw... Im still chuckling  Grin
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 2nd, 2021 at 1:52am
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CharleHunter wrote on Mar 1st, 2021 at 11:56pm:
Fantastic pictures and details as usual. I do find it particularly amusing Greg that you have time (and ability) to make a Damascus  lock plate but not the time to make a forend screw... Im still chuckling  Grin


PRIORITIES!!! Grin Grin Grin   I'm getting better at it though, when I set up to make one screw I usually make several - there's a small surplus of inner tube bands lying around now and folks have noticed something is different on a few of my rifles... Grin
  

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Reply #18 - Mar 2nd, 2021 at 11:35am
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Thanks for the info Greg!  As usual very informative and helpful. Haven’t watched the video yet but will.

Not being a real machinist hadn’t thought of cutting external radius’s with a fly cutter, inside yes, but not an outside.  Thanks for that one! 

Now I need to find some cast iron....another rabbit trail.😂
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Reply #19 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 9:27am
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I checked my pile of parts for these Sharps and couldn’t really find a bridle nor a tumbler that would work and fit under the smaller lock plate that a ’77 generally has so it’s off to the races in the mill making these.  The bridle I started with a scrap of 8620 I had lying around; the piece was maybe a little too small so I had to layout the lugs for the bridle skewed just to get them on the piece.  (Stop, think, there has to be a harder way) what’s the other line – stepping over dollars to pick up dimes.  Time on the rotary table and it should turn out ok though.  I changed positioning of the hole for the tumbler relative to the bridle screw holes so I have to make a few changes on the layout for sear engagement and how the hammer is timed also.  The tumbler is being made out of a scrap of 4340 I had lying on the bench so durability should be good on this part.  The lock plate is a scrap piece of Damascus I’d picked up at some point, I believe it will have to be annealed a bit to finish- mostly for drill and tapping the bridle screw holes…
  

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Reply #20 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 9:30am
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The sear I had in mind appears to be a problem also so this is going to be made from some scraps too.  I’m applying my close coupled triggers to this build thus the changes to the sear, mostly the geometry of where it’s hit by the knock-off of the rear trigger.
  

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Reply #21 - Mar 6th, 2021 at 12:37am
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I milled another set of close couple set triggers out and made a small block that I’ll silver solder to the Damascus strip I plan to use for the lower tang.  I should be able to use a coil spring for the front trigger in the assembly but I will make a flat spring for loading the rear trigger.  When I fit this style of trigger in the Ballard, I omitted the engagement screw and arm on the back lever of front trigger, instead I drilled up through the front trigger and found I could adjust engagement just as easy there and reduce the physical size of the front trigger.   
These are a few pictures of a little progress.
  

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Reply #22 - Mar 6th, 2021 at 12:47am
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Welded and shaped the nose extension on the hammer for the Freund mod.  Milled and fit the tumbler - still have to cut some slots for the stirrup and the fly.  The first go at a sear failed so it's back to the drawing board so to speak.  I hope to locate and mount the bridle to the lock plate in the next couple days and things will begin to take shape - or at least I can go back to working on the action...?  Probably have to start the wood sometime soon...  Sad
  

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Reply #23 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 12:12am
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The bridle is anchored to the lock plate, the tumbler fits in its space, the hammer goes on the tumbler square snugly so I made the screw to anchor the hammer to the tumbler just like the original Sharps has.  There is a short taper on the screw and in the tumbler that helps lock things together – took some trial and retries to get it just right.  The next attempt on the sear will happen after I get the bottom trigger plate positioned.  I did some work on the lever next.
  

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Reply #24 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 12:17am
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This build is getting some different features incorporated into it as it proceeds and the lever is one of those things.  The lever was a waterjet cut item I got from Rodney Storie a while back, I believe it was going to be for a Borchardt but with a little tweaking I’m going to make it fit here.  I had to build up one lug, mill a slot or two and make a cut here and there…
Then it's on to more fasteners...
  

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Reply #25 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 12:24am
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The trigger plate fit and lever slot was machined a couple mornings ago before real work started, so next on the list is more screws and the pin for the lever.  The Sharps is a bit of a sleeper that most don’t realize, there are a lot of screws to make these come together and the lever pin on several has been changed to just a screw… not here.  I’m going to fashion my lever pin similar to the pin Freund used on the ’77 that was in John Amber’s rifle.   Rough saw a piece of 4140 round bar to the basic shape and begin whittling.  Here’s a picture or two of that process.

Drilled the action for the pin and cut the slot for the lock.  Yet another hole to drill & tap and more screws to make for the keeper pin...
  

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Reply #26 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 1:51pm
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Love the progress GT! Hope the snow storm doesn't slow you down too much...
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Reply #27 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 3:15pm
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Nice progress Greg, interesting work!
  
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Reply #28 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 9:27pm
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did i see another defenseless piece of beautiful wood with crayon marks on it getting ready to attacked?action is looking great.   tony <><
  
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Reply #29 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 2:09pm
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ssrifles wrote on Mar 14th, 2021 at 9:27pm:
did i see another defenseless piece of beautiful wood with crayon marks on it getting ready to attacked?action is looking great.   tony <><


Thanks Tony!
Yes, thanks to BobW I found a piece of curly maple that does look pretty good and a process that is new to me for finishing it.  After I sketched my idea of a stock on it, I think I've heard that piece of wood whimper a few times as I walked by  Grin
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