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32 Rimfire rebarrel question
Feb 2nd, 2021 at 11:50am
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I have a 32 rimfire Ballard that has a sewer pipe for a barrel.
The firing pin can be converted to center fire.

Any suggestions on relining and re chambering.
This is a cast frame Ballard so it is not the strongest action.

Was thinking of 32 S&W but the 'sewer pipe' needs to be reamed or relined.
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Re: 32 Rimfire rebarrel question
Reply #1 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 3:22pm
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A 32-20 liner would work with a 32 S&W chamber 312 bore. T Js also makes a 30 luger with .311 bore.
  
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Re: 32 Rimfire rebarrel question
Reply #2 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 4:52pm
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I have done several 32 rimfire to 32 S&W. T,J,'s liners work great.
  

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Reply #3 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 7:53pm
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To John Taylors point I did the very same thing and was amazed at the accuracy of the round and you can reload for it for pennys.




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Reply #4 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 8:20pm
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I've also done several #2 Ballards in 32 rimfire to 32 S&W Long with the TJ's liners and all worked out well and shot great. They are fun to shoot, too.
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 8:48pm
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rj, save yourself some money & time ... just put a TJ liner in for existing 32rf long, buy some modified Roberson Cartridge 32 rf long cases, buy some 6mm Flobert primers... then bullets and powder and you keep the original caliber stamp on the Ballard
My 32rf long Tip Up has a pristine bore so I called Jeff Roberson and he modified 32 Long CF’s to the rim fires and I did the rest of the reloading to save the original caliber ... with 32rf long reload able brass  Smiley
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 3rd, 2021 at 9:38am
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To heck with fooling with assembling 32 rimfire ammo. The 32 S&W Long is much simpler and easier to load for.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 3rd, 2021 at 10:47am
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... then bullets and powder and you keep the original caliber stamp on the Ballard


Very few Ballard rifles have the caliber stamp, unless they are newer Ballard rifles made by Marlin Firearms Co. and not JM Marlin marked. So it depends on which his #2 is, whether it even has a caliber marked or not. 80% of my Ballard rifles have no caliber stamp.
  

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Reply #8 - Feb 3rd, 2021 at 11:07am
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Correct me if I'm wrong, guys, but even a cast ballard should be adequate for .32-20 or 25-20?  I've seen cast originals in 44-40 and 44 extra long.

I'd not fool around with a .32 cal equivalent to the rimfire, I'd just go to a more readily available and more versatile small game cartridge.
  
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Re: 32 Rimfire rebarrel question
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ssdave wrote on Feb 3rd, 2021 at 11:07am:
Correct me if I'm wrong, guys, but even a cast ballard should be adequate for .32-20 or 25-20?  I've seen cast originals in 44-40 and 44 extra long.

I'd not fool around with a .32 cal equivalent to the rimfire, I'd just go to a more readily available and more versatile small game cartridge.


Dave,
Thanks for the suggestions.
Both of those cartridges sound appealing to Me because I enjoy all things esoteric like many of us. 
However, in as much as this will be passed down to one of my grandsons who may not have any interest in hand loading I have to consider the ammo issue. 
I'm sure there will be a rifle or two he can use for hunting as well as this 'antique' even if it is modified. 
 
Now if I were organized I would have catalogued some of the videos that I found where the cast frame on some of the #2's blew to pieces with cartridges bigger than a small 32. 
Not a pretty picture.

I did have high hopes of a little bigger cartridge when I bought the rifle but quickly changed my mind when I saw the results of a few catastrophic failures. 

There are probably many out there in larger calibers that do just fine but 'casts' are a unknown quantity.   

Thanks again for your observations.
  
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marlinguy wrote on Feb 3rd, 2021 at 10:47am:
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... then bullets and powder and you keep the original caliber stamp on the Ballard


Very few Ballard rifles have the caliber stamp, unless they are newer Ballard rifles made by Marlin Firearms Co. and not JM Marlin marked. So it depends on which his #2 is, whether it even has a caliber marked or not. 80% of my Ballard rifles have no caliber stamp.


Marlin Guy,
This #2 is stamped on the side
"Marlin Fire Arms Co. New Haven CT. U.S.A
Patented February 1875
Ballard's.Patent Nov 5. 1861

On the top barrel flat just in front of the tulip it is stamped 
"32 Long"

Thanks for the input and observations

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Reply #11 - Feb 3rd, 2021 at 12:57pm
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rj, save yourself some money & time ... just put a TJ liner in for existing 32rf long, buy some modified Roberson Cartridge 32 rf long cases, buy some 6mm Flobert primers... then bullets and powder and you keep the original caliber stamp on the Ballard
My 32rf long Tip Up has a pristine bore so I called Jeff Roberson and he modified 32 Long CF’s to the rim fires and I did the rest of the reloading to save the original caliber ... with 32rf long reload able brass  Smiley


John,
RCC, great resource thanks. 
I called RCC this morning and spoke with them about this and another cartridge. 

I've got to do some more research on the lining and chambering.

THX

Bob

  
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Re: 32 Rimfire rebarrel question
Reply #12 - Feb 3rd, 2021 at 12:59pm
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Deadeye Bly wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 8:20pm:
I've also done several #2 Ballards in 32 rimfire to 32 S&W Long with the TJ's liners and all worked out well and shot great. They are fun to shoot, too.


Thanks to Jimmy, John and JHM for the liner confirmations..

Bob
  
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Re: 32 Rimfire rebarrel question
Reply #13 - Feb 3rd, 2021 at 1:49pm
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Would be really tempted to make that a 32-20 but 32 long center fire would be fun. I converted a #1 rolling block from rf to cf and chamberd it to 32-20 years ago. Of course the rolling block is a bit stronger action.
  
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Re: 32 Rimfire rebarrel question
Reply #14 - Feb 3rd, 2021 at 3:41pm
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I have owned original #2 Ballard rifles in .44-40, .44 Long, .44 Extra Long, and .32-20 also. All were offered in the #2 Ballard rifles, and with caution all could be fired in it. And if going from a .32RF to a larger caliber it would just be a rebore, and rifling, plus new chamber and extractor reworked. Cheaper than a reline, and will work.
But even having these calibers, and shooting them, I personally wouldn't chamber for them myself. I shoot my #2 in .32-20 a lot, and love it. But I load it way down below average .32-20 loads. I just don't care to hotrod it myself.

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