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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Jan 7^th, 2021 at 7:21pm	Print Post
	Who made this? Its on a cheap. 22 a buddy bought.its got a neat flip out flat knob to adjust it.


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3912 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #1 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 7:26pm	Print Post
	That's right slick!


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16271 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #2 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 7:43pm	Print Post
	The flip down tab is very much like the Lyman #7 uses. But the #7 is a windage globe, not a blade. Lyman used this same setup on their #8 windage combination sight, which is similar to a Beach combination, except for the windage adjustment. I have both of the above #7 and #8 front sights, but I looked through my old Lyman catalogs and don't see anything like your friend's sight in them.

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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 913 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #3 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 7:58pm	Print Post
	Lyman number 18 ivory bead windgauge front sight? Looks like the blade may have been soldered on?


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #4 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	It does look just like a #7 but without the globe


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #5 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 8:03pm	Print Post
	Sure shot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2021 at 7:58pm: Lyman number 18 ivory bead windgauge front sight? Looks like the blade may have been soldered on? Don't think so .see pic


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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 913 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #6 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 8:44pm	Print Post
	From a Stevens 1902 catalogue reprint.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #7 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 9:13pm	Print Post
	New pic.the bead is missing but there is no solder.it was grey paint.


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jimmy Senior Forum Member Offline Now available in Oklahoma. Posts: 299 Location: Skiatook Joined: May 12^th, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #8 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 9:24pm	Print Post



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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 913 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #9 - Jan 8^th, 2021 at 4:46am	Print Post
	I would guess that this sight is a pretty scarce one.


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1945 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #10 - Jan 8^th, 2021 at 2:53pm	Print Post
	I'm a bit of a sight nut, but in a lot of years scrounging, have never seen one in the flesh. Probably more apt to see one back east, closer to Lyman?

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16271 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #11 - Jan 8^th, 2021 at 3:11pm	Print Post
	That's got to be extremely rare. I would imagine most would have ordered the #7 or #8 and not a windage post #18.

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #12 - Jan 8^th, 2021 at 8:36pm	Print Post
	Well I gave him $100 and a sourdough for replacement.now I need to decide what rifle to put it on? I wish it were a globe though


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fishoot Full Member Offline Posts: 131 Location: Folsom, CA Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #13 - Jan 9^th, 2021 at 10:29am	Print Post
	I like that a lot! I would try to copy it. Any idea how the adjustment screw is captured in the assembly?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16271 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #14 - Jan 9^th, 2021 at 10:52am	Print Post
	fishoot wrote on Jan 9^th, 2021 at 10:29am: I like that a lot! I would try to copy it. Any idea how the adjustment screw is captured in the assembly? Goes through a hole on the thumb tab end of the base, and then has a small "nut" that looks like a slotted screw head on the off side of the base.

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Amoretti Full Member Offline Posts: 210 Location: thermopolis, Wy Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #15 - Jan 9^th, 2021 at 11:15am	Print Post
	I"ll bet GT has or will make one, that's a nice design. John in Wyo


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #16 - Jan 9^th, 2021 at 3:01pm	Print Post
	I ended up putting it on my Ballard .22 #3 barrel with the regular Buckhorn Marbles barrel site just a beautiful sight picture.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #17 - Jan 9^th, 2021 at 7:11pm	Print Post
	It worked wonderful on my mixed vintage parts Ballard.Super easy to fine tune windage! I need 6 more!


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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 913 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #18 - Jan 9^th, 2021 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	Mixed parts or not, that is a very attractive rifle!


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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 504 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #19 - Jan 9^th, 2021 at 11:10pm	Print Post
	That's a great find and looks good on the Ballard. Enjoy! One of my HWs came fitted with a very nice example of the Lyman No.18 sight teamed up with a mid-range tang. I've found this to be a very nice combo to hunt with as that ivory bead works really well in low light conditions. Spud


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1945 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #20 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 1:23am	Print Post
	Sure beats a brass hammer and drift punch. And good looking to boot. Maybe someone will see this and take up the cause?

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #21 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 2:43am	Print Post
	rkba2nd wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 1:23am: Sure beats a brass hammer and drift punch. And good looking to boot. Maybe someone will see this and take up the cause? I sure hope so!!


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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 504 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #22 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 11:34pm	Print Post
	rkba2nd & Cbashooter, They were made.....a nice copy of the Lyman No.5 combo was made by Parts Unknown and later as Red River sights - used to be available from Buffalo Arms. Once you trim/shape that post to suit your tastes it works quite well. The Lyman No.7 Wind-gauge sight with the flip-up pin head or post is also another option but they are getting real hard to find. Spud


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craigd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2050 Location: midwest Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #23 - Jan 11^th, 2021 at 12:02am	Print Post
	Spud, if I am not mistaken, the Red River picture that you show of the Beech style windgauge sight is actually a no. 8 replica. I think MVA still has a non windage adjustable no. 5 replicas available.


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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 504 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #24 - Jan 11^th, 2021 at 12:21am	Print Post
	craigd, Thanks for making me check my real old Lyman catalog & Tom Rowe's "American Rifle Sights". I was wrong on both counts . The Red River looks to be a copy of the No.8 sporting wind-gauge while the other is the No.17a target wind-gauge with flip-up globe or aperture. That should teach me not to rely on my rapidly fading memory Spud


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1945 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #25 - Jan 11^th, 2021 at 12:42am	Print Post
	I have an original No 8, but like the idea of a more robust sight like the No 18 for hunting, and they are just plain neat. I was aware of their existence, but have never come across one. I would think that they woud sell well if someone was willing to make a run of them. Oh please.

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craigd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2050 Location: midwest Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2009	Re: Strange windage adjustable blade sight. Reply #26 - Jan 11^th, 2021 at 3:00pm	Print Post
	It's a neat front sight. I would suspect that it may work best with a barrel mounted notch rear sight, rather than a tang sight. When I get a chance to shoot a flip sight, it stays on the mini globe choice as I can use that ring to center things up. A post seems to get really lonely with a lot of real estate around it when viewed through a tang peep. It's only a thought, but I could make use of a decent replica of a no. 18.


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