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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17343 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #15 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 7:35pm	Print Post
	One of my first Ballard rifles was a #4 Perfection I found at a local gun show right as the show opened. It had a 34" half octagon barrel, which appeared to be maybe .45-70? I say appeared because no way to check the bore since some idiot had turned down a '03 Springfield barrel to make a 20" liner, and rechamber it for .30-30 Win.!! And if that wasn't enough damage, he then took an electric engraver and wrote, ".30-30 Black Powder Only" on the flat of the barrel! But he wanted $200 for this ruined Ballard, so I bought it. It's under 500 serial number, and is a Marlin receiver, with the Marlin extractor, but the rest is Brown Ballard parts. Lever with hole and pin in the frame to fit the hole. Brown trigger and hammer, and Brown Ballard buttplate with the deep crescent curve in it. I had to replace the barrel as it was too far gone inside and out, but I did it using the exact same dimensions as the original. Back then there were a fair number of salvageable Ballard complete rifles for under $500. And some of them needed little or nothing to get them into good shooting shape. I only wish I'd had a crystal ball to know what was going to happen with them later!

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12007 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #16 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 9:16pm	Print Post
	I bought a WHW at a yard sale that had a #4 oct barrel cut off about two inches ahead of the action. Was marked 40-90. Stub bored out, 310 Cadet barrel inserted. Held in place with three 6X48 set screws. Was chambered for 32-20. Gave the seller forty bucks for it. Ron Long looked at it and told me I got took. Made money on it years later.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17343 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #17 - Jan 7^th, 2021 at 10:57pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jan 7^th, 2021 at 9:16pm: Gave the seller forty bucks for it. Ron Long looked at it and told me I got took. Made money on it years later. Must have been a very long time ago to get "took" at $40! Or Ron was out of touch with prices!

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12007 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #18 - Jan 8^th, 2021 at 8:37am	Print Post
	1985. Long time ago.

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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4135 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #19 - Jan 8^th, 2021 at 9:58am	Print Post
	1985??? That's recent history! You have to go back to at least the '50s to start talking about "a long time ago!" I think by 1985 even I would have seen the advantage of a $40 Ballard action to salvage. Within 5 or 7 years I was doing just that with Winchester 'walls, and I surely never got one that cheaply!! Froggie


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12007 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #20 - Jan 8^th, 2021 at 4:50pm	Print Post
	You would have had to have seen it. It was very bad. Was in a fire.

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John Rigby Full Member Offline Posts: 231 Location: Midwest Joined: Nov 8^th, 2005	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #21 - Jan 9^th, 2021 at 12:17pm	Print Post
	Ron wasn't out of touch its just that he looked at any abomination as unworthy at any price.

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1605 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #22 - Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	Its here Ballard pacific action. I took other pics if the set triggers and modified back end of breech block My 10X unertl is on it and ready to go!
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17343 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #23 - Jan 15^th, 2021 at 10:01am	Print Post
	Appears to be a Pacific with breech block converted to .22RF. Have you dropped the block yet to see if the block halves are the same serial number as the action?

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1605 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #24 - Jan 15^th, 2021 at 11:54am	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 10:01am: Appears to be a Pacific with breech block converted to .22RF. Have you dropped the block yet to see if the block halves are the same serial number as the action? No I haven't .I will do that after I get done shooting it today. The set triggers work very well. I just fired a few shots in a sand bucket in my shop and everything was good.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1605 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #25 - Jan 15^th, 2021 at 11:26pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Jan 15^th, 2021 at 10:01am: Appears to be a Pacific with breech block converted to .22RF. Have you dropped the block yet to see if the block halves are the same serial number as the action? Yes they are. After about 50 shots the hammer will not hold the sear when pulled back.i haven't torn into it yet.Ballards are new to me and I didn't take the breech halves apart for fear of a "sproing" and parts flying.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17343 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard Identity help Reply #26 - Jan 16^th, 2021 at 11:09am	Print Post
	Nothing will go flying apart, and usually all the parts stay in the right half of the breech block. Occasionally if things are gummed up a part will drag on the left half block and be lifted out, but nothing should go flying away.

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