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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	New life for low wall Dec 13^th, 2020 at 2:48pm	Print Post
	Old 32 rim fire with crusty bore. I installed a liner in a spare barrel, new wood, converted breech block to center fire and slow rust blued the barrel. It is now a .218 bee. A big thanks to the folks on this website for sharing their knowledge and tips. It is satisfying to save these old rifles and put them back in service.


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #1 - Dec 13^th, 2020 at 2:50pm	Print Post
	Before picture


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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1560 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: New life for low wall Reply #2 - Dec 13^th, 2020 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	Nice job!

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1233 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: New life for low wall Reply #3 - Dec 13^th, 2020 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	Turned out GREAT! That is some very nice wood. JMH


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Packet Full Member Offline Posts: 112 Location: Port Orange, FL Joined: Jul 18^th, 2019	Re: New life for low wall Reply #4 - Dec 13^th, 2020 at 4:00pm	Print Post
	Nicely done!


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Fritz Oldtimer Offline Posts: 515 Location: Texas Joined: Jun 27^th, 2008	Re: New life for low wall Reply #5 - Dec 13^th, 2020 at 4:03pm	Print Post
	You did a wonderful job on the old low wall,definitly a keeper and I bet a good shooter too.


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Gunfunpow Full Member Offline Posts: 239 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #6 - Dec 14^th, 2020 at 7:20pm	Print Post
	Super nice job! Great save of a classic low wall, especially like your caliber choice! Just gives me more motivation to get mine done as well, thanks for the post.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15743 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: New life for low wall Reply #7 - Dec 14^th, 2020 at 8:24pm	Print Post
	Major improvement! Nicely done!

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: New life for low wall Reply #8 - Dec 14^th, 2020 at 11:04pm	Print Post
	very nice!

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DWT1885 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 392 Location: New Jersey Joined: Nov 25^th, 2010	Re: New life for low wall Reply #9 - Dec 15^th, 2020 at 2:48pm	Print Post
	I'm impressed !!! Great job. Dale.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1823 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: New life for low wall Reply #10 - Dec 15^th, 2020 at 3:23pm	Print Post
	Wow. Like the old saying with a twist. You can make a silk purse from a sow's ear. Very well done. Krag

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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 3910 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: New life for low wall Reply #11 - Dec 16^th, 2020 at 4:24pm	Print Post
	Well done, SLD. At one time folks were doing a lot of this and some very nice rifles (along with some really ugly ones) were built. It seems that not as many real craftsmen are willing to take the time and effort to give these old veterans the attention they deserve. Your rifle is an inspiration. I bet the editor of our Journal would love an article from you outlining how you did it. How does that 218 Bee shoot for you? Froggie


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #12 - Dec 16^th, 2020 at 5:10pm	Print Post
	The 218 bee shoots really good. H4198 under a 50 gr hornady sx bullet and most of the varmints around here are running scared.


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #13 - Dec 16^th, 2020 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	My #2 roller, in 32 wcf, shoots great as well. The TJ liners that I used are first rate. Just another bit of wisdom that I picked up on this site.


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CW Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 492 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #14 - Dec 16^th, 2020 at 9:04pm	Print Post
	Very nice. I have a question. I am restoring (rebuilding) a few low walls too and wonder what you ended up doing for finish on the action frame and parts? I bet it sure feels good to get this rifle back into shape!


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CW Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 492 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #15 - Dec 16^th, 2020 at 9:06pm	Print Post
	One more question. Could you post a photo of the breach block? I would like to see how you handled the rimfire conversion to centerfire. Thanks so much.


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #16 - Dec 16^th, 2020 at 11:03pm	Print Post
	CW, the receiver was bead blasted with #13 glass bead. Not only does it clean the metal but the glass beads, being rounded instead of sharp like must abrasives, provide a nice smooth semi gloss polish the the metal. I then applied a finish from Steel FX. Just Google them. Finish looks like an old color case finish. The breech block is yet another item that I learned on this site. It is my version of a Nieder firing pin conversion. You can search it on this forum and learn from those much more skilled than I am. This was my first try and it worked well. I milled out the old pitted face of the block. Made the filler piece and pinned it to the block. Tapped the backside and used a drilled out sets crew to retain the firing pin. Bead blast and finish.


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #17 - Dec 16^th, 2020 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	Drawing


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #18 - Dec 16^th, 2020 at 11:07pm	Print Post
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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #19 - Dec 16^th, 2020 at 11:16pm	Print Post
	A couple photos of the Steel FX finish. This was the first time I had tried this product. I was not set up to color case the receiver at that time. This provided a nice look and another learning experience.


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degoins Junior Member Offline Posts: 54 Location: Pamplico Joined: May 22^nd, 2007	Re: New life for low wall Reply #20 - Dec 17^th, 2020 at 7:13am	Print Post
	Well done!! Looks fantastic


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CW Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 492 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #21 - Dec 17^th, 2020 at 10:05am	Print Post
	Thank you very much for taking the time to post and explain the conversion and repair of your rifle. I am taking it all in. I get one answer and then have two more questions, I'm grinning here. In the drawing and your FP conversion it looks like once the permanent plug is installed behind the firing pin, the firing pin can not be easily removed or replaced. Am I seeing this correct? Or, is there a way to access the pin? Your pictures are very helpful. Thank you.


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #22 - Dec 17^th, 2020 at 10:38am	Print Post
	Firing pin can be accessed by drifting out the bushing retainer pin.


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CW Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 492 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #23 - Dec 17^th, 2020 at 9:16pm	Print Post
	Okay, that makes sense. It comes out the front.. in case of a broken tip. I see that now.


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2202 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: New life for low wall Reply #24 - Dec 17^th, 2020 at 10:02pm	Print Post
	I see the pictures and think I understand. Nothing seems to retract the hammer so the firing pin can retract. The hammer must be manually pulled to half cock before opening the action or it will break a firing pin. Original retracts the firing pin and hammer on opening. Looks like the link would have to be modified to retract the hammer. Chuck


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #25 - Dec 17^th, 2020 at 11:29pm	Print Post
	Correct. Originally I would pull the hammer to halfcock so that the pin does not drag across the chamber mouth. Later I made a different link that would rock the hammer back far enough that the firing pin spring would pull the pin tip back flush with the breech block. Only needs to move about .050.


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r3727 Participating Member Offline Posts: 25 Location: Kansas Joined: Dec 24^th, 2004	Re: New life for low wall Reply #26 - Dec 19^th, 2020 at 7:46am	Print Post
	Well done, nice looking Low Wall.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: New life for low wall Reply #27 - Dec 19^th, 2020 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	Dog, a neglected ugly Low Wall safe queen brought back to life. Looking good and enjoy your "new" rifle


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colt45sa Junior Member Offline Posts: 57 Joined: Feb 5^th, 2021	Re: New life for low wall Reply #28 - May 25^th, 2022 at 9:19am	Print Post
	Jeff_Schultz wrote on Dec 13^th, 2020 at 3:39pm: Nice job! If someone wanted to duplicate that effort and start with a $1000 beater, how much should he expect to spend on relining, converting breech block to CF, re bluing, and building furniture from wood he already owns~?


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #29 - Jun 9^th, 2022 at 11:12pm	Print Post
	Liner..... $150- $180 Piloted reamer and a bit to bore barrel...s120- $150 Materials to covert breech block.... $10 Slow rust blue solution.... $15 Steel FX to color reciever..... $45 Chamber reamer rental and headspace guages... $60-$75 I did all the work myself so I did not pay for labor. Gave $300 for the original beater and $100 for the new wood that I fitted and finished.


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Andover Arms Participating Member Offline Posts: 31 Joined: Dec 24^th, 2017	Re: New life for low wall Reply #30 - Jun 11^th, 2022 at 7:12pm	Print Post
	Very Nice


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colt45sa Junior Member Offline Posts: 57 Joined: Feb 5^th, 2021	Re: New life for low wall Reply #31 - Jun 11^th, 2022 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	I admire your skill, machinery(?), and guts~!


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colt45sa Junior Member Offline Posts: 57 Joined: Feb 5^th, 2021	Re: New life for low wall Reply #32 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 11:11am	Print Post
	If you were to compress the time to actual work time, how long did it take you do complete the work~?


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #33 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 11:05pm	Print Post
	I didn't clock my time but around 20 to 25 hours. Some of it was new to me but by reading and learning from folks on this site, I figured out how to make it work. I am much faster at inletting stocks than I was then. Made a fixture for boring my barrel to install a liner. Poor boys have poor boy ways. Got better on the next rifle.


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Highwall Pete Participating Member Offline Posts: 11 Joined: Jul 15^th, 2015	Re: New life for low wall Reply #34 - Jan 15^th, 2023 at 6:21pm	Print Post
	Very nice engraving!


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RustyReel Participating Member Offline Posts: 20 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #35 - Jul 27^th, 2023 at 4:21am	Print Post
	Very nicely done and a great save.


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awp101 Full Member Offline Posts: 152 Location: DFW Joined: Jan 31^st, 2007	Re: New life for low wall Reply #36 - Jan 3^rd, 2024 at 9:06am	Print Post
	Slow Lazy Dog wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 11:05pm: Made a fixture for boring my barrel to install a liner. Poor boys have poor boy ways. Good looking rifles! Do you have pictures of that boring jig?

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1233 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: New life for low wall Reply #37 - Jan 3^rd, 2024 at 3:34pm	Print Post
	Have seen a lot of stock repairs but your picture of the as is was a doozie. Check out that "cross bolt"... JMH


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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 309 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	Re: New life for low wall Reply #38 - Mar 30^th, 2024 at 12:46am	Print Post
	Nice metal work on the Low Wall! Is that acid etch engraving on the rolling block! Your work? Cheers Richard


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Slow Lazy Dog Participating Member Offline Posts: 49 Location: Abilene, Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2018	Re: New life for low wall Reply #39 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 7:07am	Print Post
	The rolling block is engraved, not etched. Otto Carter, of Abilene Tx is the engraver. Check out his website. He is very talented.


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ADK22 Participating Member Offline Posts: 10 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2024	Re: New life for low wall Reply #40 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 7:39pm	Print Post
	Well done!


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