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Hi-Wall56 Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: Banks of the Brazos River Joined: Feb 11^th, 2011	.38-50 load Oct 9^th, 2020 at 12:08am	Print Post
	How about a smokeless load for the .38-50 RH to practice offhand at 100 yds. 1:12 twist Douglas and I have moulds ranging from 320 to 365 grains. Just need to do a little offhand practice. Thanks Hiwall56


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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1188 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: .38-50 load Reply #1 - Oct 9^th, 2020 at 12:32am	Print Post
	You didn't mention the action type but assuming it's something robust such as a High Wall or Stevens 44 1/2: 18.0-19.0 grains of IMR 4227 with your 320 grain bullet If it's a Ballard, cut down the loads by 1.0 gr

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jrscott Participating Member Offline Posts: 10 Location: iowa Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011	Re: .38-50 load Reply #2 - Oct 9^th, 2020 at 8:36am	Print Post
	I built a 38-50 on a Cpa action this spring and this is what I have so far: 18 gr 4227 = 1300 FPS with 285 gr, 1205 FPS with 365 gr 20 gr 5744 = 1300 FPS with 285 gr, 1230 365gr, 1211 355gr. I like the 5744 load a little better.


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SgtDog0311 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 384 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: .38-50 load Reply #3 - Oct 9^th, 2020 at 8:49am	Print Post
	Interesting JR. Still have not tried 5744 - I loaded up on 4759 as they were discontinuing. Good to have the velocities along with the weights. My trusted friend says drop a grain or two for similar velocities of 4759. I’ve only shot black so far but maybe someday if time don’t run out:-)

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AndyZ Full Member Offline Posts: 227 Location: Madison, Ct. Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: .38-50 load Reply #4 - Oct 9^th, 2020 at 7:56pm	Print Post
	Since you have 4759 (smart move!) try 16.5 gr with any bullet. Great powder! But as you know it doesn't meter worth a darn.


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Hi-Wall56 Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: Banks of the Brazos River Joined: Feb 11^th, 2011	Re: .38-50 load Reply #5 - Oct 9^th, 2020 at 9:51pm	Print Post
	Randy, I should have listed the action also but it is a Cody Ballard. Thanks for the load info gentlemen, I now have a starting point.


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Lefty38-55 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 366 Location: New England Joined: Sep 11^th, 2013	Re: .38-50 load Reply #6 - Oct 14^th, 2020 at 7:24pm	Print Post
	AndyZ wrote on Oct 9^th, 2020 at 7:56pm: Since you have 4759 ... Great powder! But as you know it doesn't meter worth a darn. Loads great through a Belding & Mull measure!

	All of my single shots shoot one tiny ragged hole with cast bullets ... it's just the following shots that tend to open up my groups ...
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: .38-50 load Reply #7 - Oct 15^th, 2020 at 12:35pm	Print Post
	If you happen to have it on hand I would encourage you to try 300MP. On the burn rate chart it is right next to 4759 and being a ball powder it also meters very well. Load I used in my 38-55 with great success was 17.1 grains. It also tends to like magnum primers over the standard large rifle primers. If you don't happen to have it on hand just stick with the others that are being recommend that you do have on hand. Over the years I have found the right primer powder combination within the proper burn rates can provide excellent results if given the time. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: .38-50 load Reply #8 - Oct 15^th, 2020 at 2:37pm	Print Post
	Hi-Wall: If you happen to use the excellent 300-MP powder that John recommends, be sure to use a magnum powder that the powder really likes


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2231 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: .38-50 load Reply #9 - Oct 16^th, 2020 at 11:49am	Print Post
	Don't want to be a wet blanket, but my rifle does not like 300MP, .33-47, Magnum primers. Forty rounds, 14.2 to 14.8 grains. Could not hit a six inch gong consistently at 200 yards. Usually an easy target from the bench to get the sights on the paper. Back to 4227 where the rifle shoots consistently most of the time if I do my part. Chuck


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: .38-50 load Reply #10 - Oct 16^th, 2020 at 4:03pm	Print Post
	Still amazes me how each individual rifle can be so different in regards to what it actually likes the best. Back in June I re-barreld two CPA's to 25-35 one for myself and another for a friend. Both barrels have identical profiles, lengths, both are 10 twists, bullets are the same, seating depth the same, same reamer and they are chambered the same and both are Douglas barrels. Mine likes 300MP, Fed.GMMLPMagnum primers and my friends in no way likes the same. His prefers AA4100 / Ramshot and Federal 210 LR primers instead?

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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 785 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: .38-50 load Reply #11 - Oct 26^th, 2020 at 10:38am	Print Post
	My best accuracy in the 38-50 was 300MP also.....mag primers

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